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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 12:48 pm
Long story short, I had surgery on my neck. A potential complication from the surgery arose (less than 5% get it). Any way, I saw the surgeon again for the one year post op. They didn't have any remedies for me other than some medication that "might" work to dull the experience, but not remedy it. I'm supposed to get another MRI in Feb, but they weren't confident there would be anything to do.

I asked about acupuncture or more conventional rehab and they shrugged their shoulders.

Anyone had any experience with acupuncture or something like that? Basically, the tightness in my neck from the surgery never went away along with some numbness from where the nerves haven't come grown back. The therapy place near my house does something like acupuncture where they hit it with a mild shock to stimulate the nerves and muscles. Looks like something from The Matrix.


Thanks.
Posted by braindeadboxer
Utopia
Member since Nov 2011
8742 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:01 pm to
I saw post op and thought you cut your nuts off.

Got to the word neck and lost interest
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:05 pm to
Get dry needled by a PT
Posted by Juiceboxwiggle
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2016
114 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:05 pm to
where are you located?
Posted by Juiceboxwiggle
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2016
114 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Get dry needled by a PT



not that effective long term. works for about a few days.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41050 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:24 pm to
Birmingham.


Maybe dry needling is what the therapy place was doing? Not sure. Since it's my neck, the needles around that area make me nervous. All the acupuncture places around here seem to be part of a chiropractic office. Normally, that'd make me suspect, but at this point, I'm willing to try just about anything.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
1935 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:56 pm to
That's ridiculous. OP, You need to try dry needling. It's actually fairly safe in the neck if you have a practitioner that knows what they are doing. The way your spine is designed, your bones are the backdrop so needles will not go anywhere they shouldn't be. For chronic tightness you would probably do well with the needling with stim. I never fully recovered from my back surgery until I got needled when I went to go learn how to do it.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 1:59 pm
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29205 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Get dry needled by a PT


No offense to your significant other, but I actively dissuade my patients from seeking this treatment.

I have had several patients develop infections, and others relate no improvement in symptoms.

To the OP... Alternative treatments can (read rarely) provide some relief, although it's usually short lived. That being said, don't just throw in the towel if your doctor seems out of options
Posted by LTechtiger21
Bossier City
Member since Nov 2006
73 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:01 pm to
Dry needling is very effective and when performed along with regular physical therapy exercise has long term benefits. However, You can't have dry needling done until 8 weeks after surgery due to surgical precautions.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41050 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Alternative treatments can (read rarely) provide some relief, although it's usually short lived. That being said, don't just throw in the towel if your doctor seems out of options


They are out of options. The tightness is just one side effect. The other is nerve related. They suggested taking a drug called Neurontin. No thanks. It may or may not mask the symptoms until the body heals itself or doesn't.

I may give the needling a try. I'm really at a "frick it" kind of point. I was hoping someone had some experiences with other forms of dealing with this.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

They are out of options. The tightness is just one side effect. The other is nerve related. They suggested taking a drug called Neurontin. No thanks. It may or may not mask the symptoms until the body heals itself or doesn't.


My wife, who FWIW is a physician, has a cervical issue, the only relief she has found is "dry needling", she can usually go 3-4 months between sessions. Prior to that she had taken Neurontin among other drugs, and had multiple steroid injections with limited relief.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41050 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:12 pm to
Just reading the side effects is enough to keep me away from the drugs.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29205 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:29 pm to
Did you do a regular course of PT during the recovery?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41050 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:33 pm to
Yes. Roughly six months worth. It really helped regaining motion in my neck and use of my shoulder. However, the tightness never went away nor did the nerve issues.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13649 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:27 pm to
Screw dry needling. How about a trigger point injection (with lidocaine) from a physician instead of a needle from a therapist who took a weekend course on dry needling?

PT's are dry needling everything these days, instead of just doing the trigger points/taunt bands that they should be. I suspect they get increased reimbursement for the dry needling.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Anyone had any experience with acupuncture or something like that?


yes
dozens of times.

the quality of the practitioners vary tremendously.

some states let MD's do it even with just a 3 hour intro in med school or a brief seminar. try for someone with a O.D. Dr of Oriental Medicine, and if not that, a person with some experience, and board certified in the specialty.

I recommend someone for you, based on your brief story.
Dr Andrew Downey.
does not do accupuncture. works with necks, backs, and energies.
His wife Naomi is really good too.
When I left their place, I felt the best I ever felt in my life.
They do weekends when they see a dozen people several times in the weekend.
Will change your life. Near the Sacramento Airport. Really low cost. The hotel/airplane will be more.

LINK
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41050 posts
Posted on 2/20/17 at 7:59 am to
Tried a couple of acupuncture sessions. It seems to have slightly improved my condition. They recommend about (5) sessions worth to get a feel for if it was helping. It was way less expensive than the traditional physical therapy. I'll keep trying until we hit the session limit and evaluate from there.

The lady that does it seems a little off. She requires a hug after every session and listens to some weird Pandora channel in her office.
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