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re: Almost 20,000 students ask to have student debts erased

Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76484 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:53 am to
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Which is caused by how readily available huge loans are to people with no means to pay them back... that's called a bubble and a similar one in another industry just sent the economy into the shitter for roughly a decade. I'm not really sure what your point is.

Exactly. There is zero vetting of he loan recipients. On top of that, you can't declare bankruptcy.

When the bubble bursts, it is going to make the housing bubble look like nothing.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36243 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:53 am to
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I'm still considering military since they'll pay off my loans.


One of her classmates is also considering joining the Air Force after graduation.
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
8185 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:54 am to
I had a 15 year old vehicle in college. I received the highest TOPS level, so I got a stipend in addition to having tuition paid in full. I worked 25 hours a week during school and 40-50 hours a week during winter and summer break. I lived in an apartment and paid my own bills, including my own car insurance. I simply worked my arse off in both work and school. I don't regret one second of it.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69417 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:55 am to
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Almost 20,000 students ask to have student debts erased


frick them.

Go get a job, apply for income based repayment, work your way up a company ladder.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18124 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:55 am to
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Exactly. There is zero vetting of he loan recipients. On top of that, you can't declare bankruptcy.

When the bubble bursts, it is going to make the housing bubble look like nothing.




Offering unsecured $100K loans to dumb 18 year olds with no assets or income for just an SSN and a signature... What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43849 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:56 am to
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Look, I agree that you should pay back your loans. But anyone that agrees with tuition increases at this point is just doing so because they don't want to seem "liberal". It's clearly a racket.



The gov't got involved in the mortgage business and put rules in place to make lenders give money to people who couldn't repay it. The market exploded with new buyers and prices rose dramatically. Ultimately, it collapsed on itself and prices crashed.

The same thing is happening right now with student loans. At some point, the debt will crush the institutions that are carrying it because of the borrowers inability to pay. Then, when the buyers of college education is reduced, the tuition prices will come down.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:56 am to
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I'm still considering military since they'll pay off my loans.


frick the military, go Air Force or Navy instead.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71840 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:56 am to
I swear, what passes for logic to Millennial never ceases to amaze me. On the one hand they want free college and their student loan debt forgiven. They seem to have at lest some tenuous grasp on the notion that massive debt is crippling and will lead to ruin down the road. Yet they can't make the same connection when it comes to the fact this country is right at $20,000,000,000,000.00 in debt and counting. But for some odd reason they support a candidate and polices that instead of addressing this issue will only make it worse.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76484 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:57 am to
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frick the military, go Air Force or Navy instead.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88576 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:58 am to
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I swear, what passes for logic to Millennial never ceases to amaze me


Kind of like the a-hole baby boomers that have driven the price of college through the roof and made these predatory loans available to kids?

Don't play the bullshite millennial card here. This issue is squarely on your generation.
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3646 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:59 am to
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If total tuition was $10k in 1985, it should be about $21k if it had followed overall inflation rates.

Instead, it with current increases, it is now about $60k.


I remember my first semester at LSU in 1992, full time tuition was a little less than $900/semester. It's crazy how much it is now.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:59 am to
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While I don't agree with free school, the racket that is required school books, fees, and excessive professor salaries should be addressed.


It's a free market. Address it by not going to college. Simple.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37853 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 9:59 am to
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While I don't agree with free school, the racket that is required school books, fees, and excessive professor salaries should be addressed. Students shouldn't be extorted because they are at "college."


It's excessive non-teaching staffs and facilities that are driving up the costs. College "staffs" are increasing at ten times the rate of tenured faculty. Nice that these people have jobs, but they're being paid by students going into heavy debt.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18124 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:00 am to
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I swear, what passes for logic to Millennial never ceases to amaze me. On the one hand they want free college and their student loan debt forgiven. They seem to have at lest some tenuous grasp on the notion that massive debt is crippling and will lead to ruin down the road. Yet they can't make the same connection when it comes to the fact this country is right at $20,000,000,000,000.00 in debt and counting. But for some odd reason they support a candidate and polices that instead of addressing this issue will only make it worse.




And here comes the dumbass opinion of the day from the retard who's generation literally just drug the economy through shite because they thought a $500K loan at 9% with nothing down for a house worth $200K was too good to pass up.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:02 am to
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I simply can't afford to let 20-30K sit in savings. My choices are to get fricked by PMI or keep spinning my wheels on the rent treadmill, both of which are terrible for building long term wealth.


There are plenty of ways to avoid PMI and buy a first house with a low down payment...if you have good credit and income FYI.

Lender paid PMI
FHA Loan
VA Loan
piggyback loan
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37853 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:02 am to
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I remember my first semester at LSU in 1992, full time tuition was a little less than $900/semester. It's crazy how much it is now.


You don't want to know how much we paid to go to state schools in the 70's. One month's paycheck would cover my tuition for the year.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69443 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:02 am to
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I'm not really sure what your point is.


If we didn't have so many people that feel they are entitled to college maybe colleges wouldn't have to hire more faculty, expand on services, and incur higher costs to operate.

It's amazing how everyone thinks they are college material these days.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88576 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:03 am to
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It's amazing how everyone thinks they are college material these days.


Well, with shitty places like SUNO still operating, basically anyone with a pulse is.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:04 am to
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this country is right at $20,000,000,000,000.00 in debt and counting. But for some odd reason they support a candidate and polices that instead of addressing this issue will only make it worse.



Would rather my tax money go to paying for education than yet more military spending. Neither party will quit spending they just spend it on different shite.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
76484 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:05 am to
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You don't want to know how much we paid to go to state schools in the 70's. One month's paycheck would cover my tuition for the year.
The cost of things back in the 70s makes me want to vomit.

The memes of the baby boomers lecturing kids nowadays truly are honest commentary of the insanity of it all.
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