re: All Star team fails because of Select aka Travel Baws

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And if you think Mike Trout would need travel ball and private lessons and all that shite to be the best baseball player in the game there's no reasoning with you. These Dominican guys dominate the Major Leagues growing up with broom sticks and rocks not knowing when their next real meal is going to be.

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shows your complete lack of knowledge on DR baseball. Those kids are grabbed at young ages and sent to academies where all they do is play baseball.

plenty of pople have had talent like mike trout who didnt even make a dent in the majors because of lack of work ethic, drugs, women etc.

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You are making this some sort of personal liberty arguement, which is stupid. If you want to waste your money for your kid to get hitting lessons that's fine. But it's ruining the mission of youth sports and not helping the kids out at all.

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Like i said...how many years have you volunteered in Rec? I have contributed more to the mission of youth sports in the last 5 years then you will in a lifetime. I still have alteast 1 more year left. So dont fricking preach to me about this, you arent even involved. Sitting on the sidelines telling me I am whats wrong yet you do not even help. frick off, trying to make me feel bad because i can afford better. Your same arguement could be applied to the public/private school debate. Sorry i want better for my kid.

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But it's ruining the mission of youth sports and not helping the kids out at all. Just let them fricking play baseball in the summer. Football in the fall and basketball in the winter like kids have done since the beggining of time

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my kids do this as do most on travel teams. I think you have this fricked up view on what travel is.

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ACL tears and Tommy John surgeries have risen exponentially since all this specialization started and the same players that would have been good before are good now. A 14 year old getting his elbow cut on because he threw 100 pitches a weekend for 5 years is fricking ridiculous.

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A) thats parents not undertstaning baseball and how to protect their kid and coaches not following the safe pitch guidelines.

b) parents not understanding that you cant be all engine and no break and not getting kids to train deceleration and not taking a break from throwin. A good program will have august and sept, dec completely off and most of july is really only tryouts.

so thats 8 months. Fall is most developmental and after everything said and playing a max of 7 months per year.

its the parents job to educate themselves on these things.

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You are the problem with how kids are being raised now, and it's sad

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bro you have no clue wtf you are talking about. You dont even have kids. You honestly have no fricking clue about any of this at all. none.

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I was trying to be nice, but frick it.

This is a ridiculously stupid statement. If you aren't maxing your 401k and Roth, but you're paying 2k a year for your kid to play baseball you're a fricking moron.

You are just like the Boomers you shite on, you are going to have to work until you die because you spent your retirement on your kid to get some shitty knockoff ring in Panama City.

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and ill be nice and just say...who the frick qualifies for a roth now a days?

and ill be retired when my kids leave hs in my early 50s if i want to. but you got me :cheers:

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some shitty knockoff ring in Panama City.

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some of those rings are pretty styling, just sayin'

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So you're just paying 10x to play glorified Dixie youth for no reason.

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Again. Someone who doesn’t have a fricking clue about travel ball

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Im told you cant be good, not even Mike Trout, if you don't take lessons by 777, so which is it?

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lessons once a week is not that big of a deal. who gives a frick about the money? and its liek 50 max for that. jesus

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That's how all this shite started, I was growing up when travel ball became all the rage. In almost every instance it was some dad who got mad because his little piss pants son, who was a decent little ball player, didn't get treated like the star so he started a travel team.

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thats cool, i played before all of this. But i can tell you, thats not the case now. ALl of the decent and above kids play travel.

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There's thousands of families all over the country going into fricking credit card debt to finance their 9 year olds baseball schedule. Most Americans don't have 1k in a savings account, but travel ball is bigger than ever. Those two things don't reconcile.

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well they are fricking stupid then. I see upper middle mainly playing. The ones with lower incomes get sponsorships, take advantage of fundraising and usualyl only have 1 kid playing.

most tournaments are within driving distance. they pack ice chest and stuff to save money.

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You may have the money to pay for all this bullshite and not affect anything, and that's great. That's not the point. Playing multiple sports through rec leagues worked just fine for ages. All this travel ball, AAU, AJGA rage has done has made helicopter parenting worse IN GERNERAL, and guess what the best players are still the best players.

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i can tell you havent been around the HS programs in a while or seen how much more advanced the competition is now a days.

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Again. Someone who doesn’t have a fricking clue about travel ball

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I played it for about a decade, but ok.

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With that being said there are plenty travel teams that are terrible too which is usually the kids that get cut from the good teams so their dads make a new team

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This, right here, is why the board rags on travel ball.

Look... for the 12U and 14U kids who are legit athletes and in the old days would play on the JPRD-East Babe Ruth team? I can get wanting to play travel because of the higher level of play.

No one is bagging on the showcase tournaments, etc. It's the 6U coach pitch USSSA that we make fun of.

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#2) are poor and cant afford it, even though plenty of teams that are only 1k plus uniforms. Get a used bat and glove. its not that expensive. Most tournies are within driving distance

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I know this is the O-T where we are all ballers, but the idea of "it's only 1K plus uniforms" cracks me up.

We have kids in our rec ball league that can't afford the $55 registration fee, that need fee waivers, or need to pay it in installments.

This is exactly the thing. All the families who can pay 1K or 2K or whatever run to travel ball, so they don't have to associate with the poors.

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Dominican Republic

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Oooooooh, thanks

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Yes, league youth baseball is almost now unplayable because the only kids left come from some kind of bad background. That's the issue, upper middle class parents who will contribute less to retirement to get Timmy hitting lessons made travel ball the only decent playable league, and little Timmy still sucks. All because some kid in Timmys class, whose parents couldn't afford those things, has God given ability making Timmys parents jealous.

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Oh good gracious, me and Mingo agree on something that isn't a tax issue...