re: Alex Jones ordered to pay Sandy Hook parents more than $4M

Accidentally sending a letter or something that wont blow your case up would warrant "please disregard". Sending opposing counsel your client's entire cell phone he should have been calling Plaintiff and getting confirmation that it was being deleted. The dude is just a clown.

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Such an accusation would be better than actually having your child dead, because that would mean he thinks they are alive: so how is that defamation?

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He’s accusing grieving parents of being part of a deep state conspiracy to fake a mass shooting in order to force gun control laws, and your defense is “well, that would be better for them than actually having a dead kid”?

He’s framing the victims as the enemy. In fact, he’s straight up accusing them of being enemies of democracy, despite knowing that it’s not true.

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HOW does his accusations result in damage to their characters or financially.

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The damage does not have to be financial. People are awarded non-economic damages (e.g. pain & suffering and mental anguish) all the time. You may not agree with that system, and that’s fine, but that’s an entirely different discussion.

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Edit: ESPECIALLY if the majority of sane people think Alex Jones if full of shite?

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Ah yes.. the old “I was obviously joking, only an idiot would believe that” defense. It doesn’t fly when there are tons of people (apparently including some in this very thread) who do believe it. The fact that most people think Alex Jones is full of shite doesn’t change the fact that many people believe him.

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You hold the individuals who committed those criminal acts accountable then. Free Will is a thing.

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It’s been stated about 300 times, but to reiterate: Alex Jones was not criminally charged in relation to his statements about the Sandy Hook families.

Those people are accountable for their criminal actions. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

Let’s say I own a local news station and I run a segment reporting that you’re a kiddie diddler. I know the report is false, but I publish it anyway. You wind up losing your job because of it. My news station didn’t fire you, your employer did. I didn’t tell them to fire you, I just told everyone you’re a kiddie diddler. So does that mean my news station is off the hook? Of course not.

Now let’s say you don’t get fired, but you become a pariah in the community because of the false accusation from my news station. People hate you because they think you’re a child molester. Someone throws a brick through your window. Just like the first example, those people are the ones who decided to hate you. I didn’t tell anyone to throw a brick through your window, I just told them you’re a kiddie diddler. Does that somehow mean my news station is off the hook? Again.. of course not. I knowingly published a falsehood about you that damaged your reputation.

It doesn’t matter whether the guy who threw the brick gets charged criminally. I’m still at risk of being sued for my false statements.

And again.. Alex Jones could have had his day in court. He could have argued that his statements had nothing to do with the harassment that the families received from those lunatics. He could have even argued that his statements were true (which would have outright nullified the entire lawsuit, as truth is an absolute defense to defamation).

He didn’t argue any of that. Instead, he outright refused to turn over documents despite being ordered to do so by the court multiple times, until the court awarded the plaintiffs a judgement by default. Apparently he thought that complying with discovery would be worse for him than the actual judgement, which is kind of amazing.

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Apparently he thought that complying with discovery would be worse for him than the actual judgement, which is kind of amazing.

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And then ultimately all the shite he tried to hide gets turned over anyway. Karma really is amazing sometimes.

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Dude said it was fake YEARS AGO. And has apologized endlessly over the past 5 years.

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Ironic that his apologies started about the same time that the lawsuits were filed.

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shite, we should sue teachers pushing trannyism and CRT then

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Oh for the love of God.

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I’m definitely against any sort of regulation of speech but this goes beyond that and I have no issue with him being forced to pay for the damage he did to those families.

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He knew what he was saying wasn't true, kept pushing it and then chose to ignore the court orders and not fight it. He is in this position because he chose to be there.

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I disagree

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You disagree?

That's like me saying "the grass is green" and you say "I disagree".

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I'll live. Hope everyone has a good weekend