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re: Alcoholism: Why Is It A Disease?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:27 pm to tigerdude3232
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:27 pm to tigerdude3232
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I can physically make someone stop drinking.....
You can't physically cure addiction.
You're incapable of understanding the difference between using and addiction.
Addicts don't use to get high. They use to stop being sick.
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:30 pm to Festus
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I'm just confirming, you believe that cigarette smokers who are addicted have a disease?
Almost unquestionably.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:34 pm to Ace Midnight
Wow. Smoking is a disease too? I’m gonna have to break some news to a lot of people at work. Most diseases have a day of awareness. Do you know when the Menthol Day is so we can prepare?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So is addiction the desire? So you are admitting addiction is just a disorder than we waive responsibility from the person for giving into that desire?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:34 pm to Bama and Beer
Now that is the truth. And it's a shitty thing I hate about the business. Rehabs are for profit a lot of the time unfortunately. It is what it is, but I hate it. The disconnect between corporate and the counselors and medical staff on the ground is real.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:35 pm to tigerdude3232
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:35 pm to tigerdude3232
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So is addiction the desire?
Addiction is the physical changes to your brain. Neural pathways, etc.
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So you are admitting addiction is just a disorder than we waive responsibility from the person for giving into that desire?
Youre retarded.
You don't have the ability to comprehend 1/10th of what you've been given.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:36 pm to Clark W Griswold
I don’t think it’s as black and white as most people try to make it seem. I believe certain people are genetically predisposed to becoming addicts. And it starts off as a choice, up until it becomes a physical addiction, where when you stop, you become physically sick. Then, it rears it’s ugly head as a disease. My Dad was an alcoholic and died of cirrhosis. I know I’m predisposed to it, so I do my best to keep my shite in check so I don’t let history repeat itself. It’s an ongoing battle.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:36 pm to OMLandshark
We could take them out back......
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:38 pm to tigerdude3232
Still awaiting a response on your plan.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You haven’t given me much of anything other than the same example and metephors over and over again. I’m sorry you can’t cintrol your impulses but when I serial killer can’t we send him or her to jail
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:39 pm to Triple Bogey
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And it starts off as a choice, up until it becomes a physical addiction,
Correct.
In addiction, you use to treat symptoms of addiction. It's just self medication.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:39 pm to Triple Bogey
So your dad drank a ton and caused himself to die of a real disease?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:40 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Sorry I asked you a question earlier.....see above
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:41 pm to tigerdude3232
...and I answered. Pay attention.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:43 pm to EarlyCuyler3
If I locked you in a room for 7 days you wouldn’t be able to drink. You would lose all the side effects except desire. At that point, unless you are telling me desire is a disease, you no longer have symptoms and side effects and don’t have a disease....at that point you’re just a pos
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:46 pm to tigerdude3232
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You would lose all the side effects except desire
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It takes years, sometimes decades to become normal if you ever do.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:46 pm to tigerdude3232
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o your dad drank a ton and caused himself to die of a real disease?
He started off making bad choices, that progressed into a physical addiction. Where if he didn’t continue drinking would become sick. People take medicine for all types of diseases to help cure/relieve the symptoms. The medicine he chose to take ended up killing him. I’m not saying the choices he made in the beginning were good or smart, I’m saying that after a certain point, he couldn’t just choose to stop on his own.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:47 pm to tigerdude3232
Well open a treatment center then, 'cause the problem is growing daily. I guess you'll be the 1st guy in the world to try that plan. Let me know how it goes.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:48 pm to Clark W Griswold
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Smoking is a disease too?
It's quibbling, but I didn't say smoking was a disease. I said nicotine addiction is almost unquestionably a disease.
I stand by it.
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