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Airbus, Boeing gain more than 960 aircraft orders at Farnborough

Posted on 7/23/18 at 5:46 am
Posted by member12
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 5:46 am
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Airbus, Boeing gain more than 960 aircraft orders at Farnborough

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The world’s commercial aircraft duopoly once again scored big at an otherwise lackluster Farnborough Air Show with Airbus and Boeing announcing firm net orders and commitments for more than 960 aircraft, valued at $160 billion at list prices.

Depending on final accounting and whether some prior unidentified orders are included, Boeing’s net tally is estimated at 531 orders. Either way, Boeing appears to have taken the lion’s share of the new business compared to Airbus, which accounted for 431 aircraft sales, 93 of which were firm and 388 were included under signed memoranda of understanding (MOU). Some 60 of the 431 were also for the Bombardier CSeries, now rebranded the Airbus A220


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Based on Boeing’s aggregate tally, the total includes 564 737, almost a fifth of which—some 110 units—are orders for the -10, the longest stretch variant of the MAX family. The company said the flurry of business for the -10, which now has more than 500 orders, continues to bolster the company’s strategy of countering the A321neo with the ultimate 737 variant.


There was some skepticism over if the stretched 737 Max 10 would be a real competitor to the Airbus A321neo. It appears to be on a very good footing moving forward.

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Boeing also took orders and commitments for 52 787s and 52 777s, though again the net order numbers are smaller. Nevertheless, the majority of the 777s are freighter versions and, along with five 747-8F orders reaffirmed during the show, represent an important boost for the company’s resurgent freighter lines.


Boeing even moved some 747-8F's.

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Among the deals announced by Airbus was a firm order for 52 aircraft that was previously in the orderbook as an undisclosed deal. Among the additional aircraft on firm order were 34 A330neos for AirAsia X, a crucial boost for the program. In the year to date, Airbus now has signed firm orders for 354 aircraft and MOUs for a further 398 for a total of 752 commitments.

Airbus CCO Eric Schulz said he expects all the MOUs to be converted into firm orders before the end of the year and Airbus will be able to reach a book-to-bill ratio of more than one. The manufacturer plans to deliver around 800 or more aircraft in 2018, a target that has been threatened by the engine delays on the A320neo program.

Among the commitments this year are 60 additional firm orders for the A220, formerly the Bombardier CSeries, from the new US airline set up by David Neeleman and a preliminary deal for 60 additional aircraft by New York-based JetBlue Airways. Schulz said the takeover by Airbus of the program meant “a big push in the level of confidence. People felt reassured that the support will be there.” He noted also “a lot of interest in combined A220 and A320 orders” and Airbus plans to offer “a lot of flexibility” to its customers in a space where Boeing cannot yet compete with its takeover of Embraer’s commercial aircraft business still pending.



I didn't think the C-series was going to break into the North American market until Delta Airlines went with them last year. Airbus has a controlling interest in the C series jet now, which they've re-branded A220. 60 were sold to JetBlue.

Boeing has since purchased the commercial aircraft division of Embraer to compete on smaller regional jets.

Supposedly the new Boeing 797/MOM jet will be launched at the Paris Airshow next year.
This post was edited on 7/23/18 at 5:51 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 5:53 am to
Gonna be some loaded drunk sales reps at that booth
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 5:59 am to
They gave me 10% off my 787.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:15 am to
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They gave me 10% off my 787.



Sucker. They would take off 25% if you just went to the dealership 30 minutes before they close.
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 6:32 am to
quote:

There was some skepticism over if the stretched 737 Max 10 would be a real competitor to the Airbus A321neo. It appears to be on a very good footing moving forward


The 797 will be a big hit next year should Boeing choose to launch it
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3488 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:09 am to
787 already being built in Charleston, and the rumor is the 797 will be too

Right to Work state LFG. Eat shite Washington.
Posted by DarthRebel
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Member since Feb 2013
26126 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 7:54 am to
So A question I have wondered since the 80s, what comes after the 797? Do they go to a 807 or 808?

Boeing has had
707
717
727
737
747
757
767
777
787
797 - soon
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:18 am to
We will have drones flying us around before they need something higher than the 797
Posted by SM6
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:51 am to
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787 already being built in Charleston, and the rumor is the 797 will be too


Kinda,

Components are built all over the world, including Wichita and Seattle, final assembly occurs in Charleston. The -10 fuselage will be constructed in Charleston, not Wichita because it is too large to go on a rail car.

The 737 MAX series is still built in Renton, and the 777 in Everett.
This post was edited on 7/23/18 at 8:52 am
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8972 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 8:56 am to
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There was some skepticism over if the stretched 737 Max 10 would be a real competitor to the Airbus A321neo. It appears to be on a very good footing moving forward.


The biggest problem is that it cannot compete with the 321LR. The Max -10 has made up some ground but is still lagging big time. The middle of the market aircraft will be a big change for them, but it won't be flying until the middle to later part of the next decade. A lot of 757s will long past reached the end of their lives by then (the first 757s were delivered in the early 80s).

A problem for both Boeing and Airbus is the lack of available deliver slots. I read that the 737 was essentially sold out until 2022. That creates a nice opening for Embraer and Bombardier (Airbus) who can deliver E2s or 220s next year.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Airbus has been really struggling to sell its A330neo and the 787-9 has been cleaning up the market.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
76153 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 9:07 am to
So Farnborough is the crooked teeth/fixed wing equivalent of the Catalina Wine Mixer?
Posted by Creamer
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Member since Jul 2010
2817 posts
Posted on 7/23/18 at 12:25 pm to
Buying boeing stock a couple of years ago is one of the best investments I have ever made.
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