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re: Advice for Job Hunting in Atlanta, Georgia ?
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:26 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:26 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Most of the posters here don't like black people based on them being black. Surely this isn't news for you
Quite a few are, but I wouldn’t say “most” based on my observations.
I try my best to give people the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, I’d be guilty of the same type of thinking.
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:29 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Interesting reading in this thread so far.. I’m wondering, since we have posters in this thread from all over, if someone were hypothetically looking to make a move from Louisiana to either Atlanta or Dallas, what would be the pros and cons of each, job-wise, and which city would you choose? FWIW i’m 40ish, Caucasian and work in healthcare sales, with quite a bit of experience.. Not going to get into marital status, kids, etc since i’m not interested in which suburbs have good schools or where to live in each city- i’ m mainly interested in which city would have more plentiful/good paying jobs at the moment.. i know both would be an improvement from La., and fwiw i’m not interested in Houston.
Lived in both. They are very, very similiar cities. Dallas has Fort-Worth, so the overall metro area is roughly half a million bigger.
Both have great economies, are still relatively affordable. I think Dallas has more of a "big hat" country feel to it - not exactly like the show Dallas, but it's not totally off the beaten path. Atlanta has a little bit more "hip/culture" vibe to it, largely stemming from the music and entertainment scene. Minorities in Atlanta are predominantly black. Minorities in Dallas are predominantly latino.
They have very similar areas - Buckhead and Highland Park are mirror images of each other. East Dallas is like the O4W. The burbs like Frisco and Plano could be dropped into Gwinnett/East Cobb and you wouldn't be able to tell a difference. Both are mega real estate towns. I believe Dallas has a slightly bigger market cap, but derives more of it's GDP on Energy. Atlanta has a slightly more diverse portfolio of businesses.
The college football scene is also very similar. In Dallas (not including the burbs) is very diverse. SMU is their version of GT. Texas is likely the most popular team in town, but there is a slew of Aggies, Razorbacks, Sooners, and other SEC schools there in droves. Similar to ATL where Georgia is likely the most popular, but there are just tons of Rebels, Barners, Bammers, Noles, Cocks, and Clemsonites around. It actually makes for really fun Saturdays on the bar circuit in both towns.
Atlanta is likely a bit greener - Dallas is a bit dustier, and hotter. Both have just tons of hot women around.
If you're more eclectic, you'd likely prefer Atlanta. More liberal, and as such, has kind of a groovier scene. If you're more conservative, you'd likely like Dallas. Boots and jeans are still an office staple, even in the high rises of the big banking, consulting, and PE firms in town.
Airport wise, ATL has the biggest, but Dallas has two. Kind of a wash.
I can't stress how much I like both cities. Both are major, top-10 markets in America and are still affordable enough for a good time. Each city still has a remnant of their "old boys club," but it's not something that is any different from other major markets in the country.
If after all of your consideration its a draw, Texas does have no income tax.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:35 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Most of the posters here don't like black people based on them being black. Surely this isn't news for you
I've noticed this as well... In Atlanta we call it "Braves Country" lol.
Northern parts of the city extending into Cobb and Gwinnett county refused to have MARTA (public transit system) extended back in the early 90s because it was something minorities used. Now that the town has almost doubled in size, it's something that is desperately needed, but is now almost too cost prohibitive due to development.
Personally, I think the city of Atlanta should do what Chicago and LA did and place a toll tax on the interstate going into the city. It would increase revenue enough to help pay for a rail line, and, hopefully companies to let people work from home.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:40 pm to volod
We're full. Better luck next time.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:43 pm to ATLabama
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Northern parts of the city extending into Cobb and Gwinnett county refused to have MARTA (public transit system) extended back in the early 90s because it was something minorities used
Ill give you Alpharetta, but taxes and revenue are the main reason Cobb and Gwinnett refused to have them expand
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it's something that is desperately needed, but is now almost too cost prohibitive due to development.
Agreed, but their main problem is stop locations and length of rides(no express routes). you pretty much have two lines and no one wants to take a bus on a transfer. Even with traffic I can get most places much faster no riding the train. only real benefit is not having to park at location and not having to actually drive.
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Personally, I think the city of Atlanta should do what Chicago and LA did and place a toll tax on the interstate going into the city. It would increase revenue enough to help pay for a rail line, and, hopefully companies to let people work from home.
They need something. raising sales tax a few points is really what they need to do. At 8%(2% towards the city) they are on the low end for around the country. The damn $.50 toll at 400 was nothing, yet became a pressure point for the gubernatorial elections several years ago
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:43 pm to ATLabama
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Northern parts of the city extending into Cobb and Gwinnett county refused to have MARTA (public transit system) extended back in the early 90s because it was something minorities used. Now that the town has almost doubled in size, it's something that is desperately needed, but is now almost too cost prohibitive due to development.
Ticks me off every time I have to drive to the airport. They could have at least brought it out from Doraville to Norcross or even Duluth. Absolutely a nonsense argument to not do it.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:43 pm to NYCAuburn
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Milton is an outlier there
BC there is so much less to it? I include it because it's Fulton and it's a genuinely nice area for the most part, unlike a lot of the aging "boom" suburbs of the 1990s and 2000s. Also, unlike some of those expiring suburbs (and more like Roswell) it has a genuinely good HS.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:46 pm to StupidBinder
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I live in the northern part of Gwinnett. If you’re this far out, you basically have to be OK with restricting yourself to working not much further away than Alpharetta unless you like being in your car an hour each way.
But it’s not hard. I’ve lived here for 13 years and have had 3 different employers with 5 different office locations. John’s Creek, Norcross, Alpharetta by northpoint, then off of Windward, then off of Old Milton. Worst commute was 50 minutes. Best was about 20.
My commute is an hour each way. It sucks, but I love my job and would not live anywhere else other than my Sugar Hill bubble.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:47 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Yeah, What exactly is Milton? there is no city center or city in general, just a few sections where they annexed some land where some retail outlets are(which most would consider Alpharetta). Other than that Milton is nothing more than country roads
BC there is so much less to it?
quote:Residents of Milton Primarily go to Cambridge and that also is half Alpharetta students as well
Also, unlike some of those expiring suburbs (and more like Roswell) it has a genuinely good HS.
FWIW, I live in Milton
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:48 pm to NYCAuburn
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At 8%(2% towards the city) they are on the low end for around the country
Incorrect. Raising it would put them near the top
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:49 pm to NYCAuburn
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Residents of Milton Primarily go to Cambridge and that also is half Alpharetta students as well
I was just thinking...is Cambridge High really different from Alpharetta High? My guess was “no”.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:50 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
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My commute is an hour each way. It sucks, but I love my job and would not live anywhere else other than my Sugar Hill bubble.
Lanier Cluster checking in!
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:51 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:NYC is 4%% on city tax, Chicago is 4%, LA 3%+, SF 3%,
Incorrect. Raising it would put them near the top
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:52 pm to volod
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Im looking for electrical engineering or data analysts positions.
Man GP will hire your minority arse YESTERDAY. Right in the middle of downtown. They have analyst jobs there but not a WHOLE lot of engineering at your level(high level management guys there).
Go apply. Seriously.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:54 pm to StupidBinder
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Lanier Cluster checking in!
Nah....see user name.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:54 pm to ATLabama
That's a good and fair Dallas comparison. I have a lot of family in Dallas and am there frequently, so I've done this analysis a lot too.
IMO Dallas is "nicer" all around and it's also less interesting. Dallas is chain restaurant/store paradise. But unlike Atlanta, chain restaurants/stores in Dallas are likely to be considerably less trashy/ghetto and therefore more usable.
Atlanta is hipper and was well ahead of Dallas on certain things (craft breweries, for one). I like a lot of the gentrifying areas of Atlanta and I think they're unique and interesting in a way a lot of Dallas isn't. But I'm also not someone who needs to be on the leading edge of stuff or a non-conformist, so on that basis I somewhat like the nice-if-dull aspects of DFW.
Both have a lot of strivers but Dallas has it more engrained in their culture. I will say people in Dallas are nice so the striverism doesn't necessarily result in rudeness. But I do find that it's pretty hard not to become extremely obsessive with what other people are doing/buying/etc. in Dallas. It's just a very materialistic place in many ways, although you can and will find plenty of genuinely good folks.
If I had to go live in Dallas I think the hardest parts for me would be 1) proximity to things I like (mountains, good beaches) and 2) climate/topography. Dallas feels far more burnt out to me than Atlanta because it gets so hot for so long and it lacks the canopy Atlanta has. The heat itself is setoff a bit because of somewhat lower humidity, but it lasts a fair amount longer into the Fall.
IMO Dallas is "nicer" all around and it's also less interesting. Dallas is chain restaurant/store paradise. But unlike Atlanta, chain restaurants/stores in Dallas are likely to be considerably less trashy/ghetto and therefore more usable.
Atlanta is hipper and was well ahead of Dallas on certain things (craft breweries, for one). I like a lot of the gentrifying areas of Atlanta and I think they're unique and interesting in a way a lot of Dallas isn't. But I'm also not someone who needs to be on the leading edge of stuff or a non-conformist, so on that basis I somewhat like the nice-if-dull aspects of DFW.
Both have a lot of strivers but Dallas has it more engrained in their culture. I will say people in Dallas are nice so the striverism doesn't necessarily result in rudeness. But I do find that it's pretty hard not to become extremely obsessive with what other people are doing/buying/etc. in Dallas. It's just a very materialistic place in many ways, although you can and will find plenty of genuinely good folks.
If I had to go live in Dallas I think the hardest parts for me would be 1) proximity to things I like (mountains, good beaches) and 2) climate/topography. Dallas feels far more burnt out to me than Atlanta because it gets so hot for so long and it lacks the canopy Atlanta has. The heat itself is setoff a bit because of somewhat lower humidity, but it lasts a fair amount longer into the Fall.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:58 pm to NYCAuburn
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NYC is 4%% on city tax, Chicago is 4%, LA 3%+, SF 3%,
And an 8% total rate is still pretty average. 10% would be way towards the high end
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:03 pm to NYCAuburn
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Residents of Milton Primarily go to Cambridge and that also is half Alpharetta students as well
Guess I'm not following, I think most of those Fulton schools are decent to good and often do a lot better than other suburban schools in matriculating kids to decent/good colleges.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:04 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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10% would be way towards the high end
Around 10% is fairly common around the country for cities.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:05 pm to NYCAuburn
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Around 10% is fairly common around the country for cities.
I've filed sales and use tax returns for almost all 45 states that have one, no its not. 10% is high
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