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re: Activists threaten to remove confederate monuments themselves in NOLA

Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66808 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

We're going to put ropes around Andrew Jackson and we're going to take him down off his pedestal,"
Someone please get this on video.
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53568 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 12:59 pm to
If I was still in New Orleans, I'd attend to protect President Jackson
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

You're incorrect. Most people did not own slaves, it's estimated that around 6 percent of white southerners did.



The Neo- Confederates are out



Percentage of Households that owned slaves in 1860 according to US Census records & Slave Schedules:

MS- 49%
S.C.- 46%
Ga-. 37%
Ala-.-35%
Fla-.-34%
La.- 29%
Tx-. 28%
N.C.- 28%
Va-. -26%
TN- -25%
KY - 23%
Ark-. 20%


Http://www.civilwarcauses.org/stat.htm


Http://www.civil-war.net/pages/1860_census.html

Not shocking that the above states were among the first to secede from the Union because slavery was so widespread/ way of life.


Next the Neo Confederates shall tell us not many Confederate soldiers owned slaves.....but their families probably did. Most teenage soldiers even today own nothing of value( outside of a car).










Neo Confederate scum are no better than Neo Nazis who downplay the Holocaust:



"It wasn't 6 million Jews"...." Germans didn't Gas murder that many Jews...diseases/ Allied bombings",etc......




This post was edited on 9/16/16 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:05 pm to
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sugar71


What you said is correct.

If these people try to take matters in to their own hands, I will show up to counter-demonstrate.

They are NOT above the laws of the United States. The matter is before the courts. They'll have to wait for justice, just like the rest of us.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

We're going to put ropes around Andrew Jackson and we're going to take him down off his pedestal,"
Someone please get this on video.


Yeah, I very doubt their ability to accomplish much at all.

And why are they going to Jackson square when his is not one of the statues in question?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89801 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

sugar71


I can just see you, front and center, hauling on the ropes.

If it fell on you, I'd laugh my arse off.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17751 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

And why are they going to Jackson square when his is not one of the statues in question?


You have to remember, these are the people who said that when they tear down Lee Circle, they should erect a monument of Obama instead.

I'm not even kidding.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:36 pm to
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You have to remember, these are the people who said that when they tear down Lee Circle, they should erect a monument of Obama instead.

I'm not even kidding.


You could erect a statue of every minority hero on every street corner and put a museum of tolerance on every block and these people would still find a million things to bitch about. This is about laying waste to Western society. Nothing more.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

This is about laying waste to Western society. Nothing more.




Explain this. Why would anyone want to destroy western society?
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:43 pm to
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Explain this. Why would anyone want to destroy western society?


Western Society is codeword for "White Patriarchy". Globalist lib/progs beleive that White Patriarchy is evil and must be destroyed. Hence the removal White Southern culture.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2429 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Them ‘Em Down NOLA

Terrible name. I guess it makes sense to them.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:47 pm to
These left wing groups see Western society as an evil regime responsible for the oppression of people of color all around the world despite the fact that it is by far the most tolerant and group on earth and has contributed the most to the advancement of the human race. A perfect example is how they emphatically embrace one of the most oppressive, archaic groups of people on earth today - Muslims
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:48 pm to
Maybe, but I think we get into dangerous territory when we presume to know others' motivations. Once you tell yourself that the other side is dead set on malevolent intentions, it makes it harder to empathize and have any real debate about it.

I prefer to think that these are just misguided people who think they're doing something noble who fell into the trap of tribal thinking.

I also don't really give a shite about these statues either way so frick it. But on shite that is actually important, it's a dangerous and counterproductive way to think of those who disagree with you.
Posted by jp001
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
119 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:51 pm to
SHOULD BE SHOT ON THE SPOT
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

I also don't really give a shite about these statues either way so frick it. But on shite that is actually important, it's a dangerous and counterproductive way to think of those who disagree with you.


It's not merely about statues, per say. These acts are merely a starting point by which other acts are born. A line needs to be drawn and this is just as good a place as any.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:52 pm to
Again, more tribal politics. People quit debating actual issues and start taking sides based on who they identify with. You're kinda playing into that when you label them all as anti-western or try to assume their motivations. Both sides are guilty of it. The trick is to debate about actual issues and not groups of people and their merits and motivations.
Posted by BayouRat15
DAUPHIN ISLAND,AL
Member since Jan 2004
10234 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:53 pm to
Let's tear down all the Martin Luther King crap !

That is history too and it offends me

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:55 pm to
I'm not assuming anything. These are the tenets of the modern activist movements we see today such as white privilege. If you boil down their arguments, you can see their ultimate goals.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

because if you won't give us what we want, we'll just take it




Sounds like Confederacy rationale.

Threaten slavery & we take our ball( and slaves) & go home.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 9/16/16 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

I'm not assuming anything. These are the tenets of the modern activist movements we see today such as white privilege. If you boil down their arguments, you can see their ultimate goals.


Absolutely, once all confederate and founding fathers statues are removed, they will move on to something else. They want to erase history that they don't like, but in the end it will not be enough for them.
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