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re: According to a new survey, only 16% of Christians believe in the doctrine of the Trinity
Posted on 3/30/25 at 2:46 pm to L.A.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 2:46 pm to L.A.
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Overall, just 40% of respondents believe that God exists and affects people’s lives. That figure rises to 53% among self-identified Christians, 60% among theologically-identified born-again Christians, and 100% among Integrated Disciples. The latter term refers to those who have a biblical worldview. While a majority of those surveyed (59%) believe in the existence of Jesus Christ, a significantly smaller share of adults (29%) believe in the Holy Spirit.
Wait am I reading this right?
59% of respondents believe in Jesus but only 40% of them believe in God?
What?
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 2:57 pm to L.A.
How come I am never contacted for any of these surveys? Or anyone I know.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:05 pm to Furious
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There is a reason they are labeled heresies. The most fundamental tenant of Christianity is that God exists as three distinct persons, but as one God. The Holy Trinity. If whatever denomination out there believes otherwise, they simply can’t be Christians. They can call themselves whatever they want, but it isn’t founded in the Christian Gospels.
Catholic heresies. Doesn’t inherently make them Christian heresies.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:07 pm to Joshjrn
quote:like what?
Catholic heresies. Doesn’t inherently make them Christian heresies.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:08 pm to Joshjrn
All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholic.
But you knew that.
But you knew that.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:10 pm to L.A.
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An overwhelming majority of Christians reject the basic Christian teaching of the Trinity,
This would be better worded,” people who claim to be Christians.”
In order to be Christian, you must believe Christian doctrine.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:11 pm to N2cars
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All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholic. But you knew that.
Obviously?
My point is that just because something is a heresy to Catholics doesn’t inherently make it not-Christian. Or, you know, that would mean every non-Catholic is a non-Christian.
If someone believes in the divinity of Jesus the Christ, I would say they are Christians. Everything beyond that is denomination.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:12 pm to Revelator
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In order to be Christian, you must believe Christian doctrine.
Defined as? And by who?
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:12 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:is a great question. Idk so I axed AI.
like what?
quote:I did not know any of that.
**Catholic Heresies vs. Christian Heresies** While the terms "Catholic heresy" and "Christian heresy" are often used interchangeably, there is a subtle distinction. Catholic heresies refer to beliefs or practices that deviate from Catholic doctrine, whereas Christian heresies encompass a broader range of deviations from Christian orthodoxy.
Here are some Catholic heresies that are not necessarily Christian heresies: *
**Gallicanism**: A 17th-century movement that emphasized the autonomy of the French Church and the power of the Gallican bishops. While it was considered a heresy by the Vatican, it was not necessarily incompatible with Christian doctrine. *
**Jansenism**: A 17th-century movement that emphasized the importance of faith and the need for individuals to experience a sense of spiritual despair in order to attain salvation. While it was considered a heresy by the Vatican, it was not necessarily incompatible with Christian doctrine. *
**Febronianism**: A 18th-century movement that emphasized the importance of the laity and the need for the Church to become more democratic. While it was considered a heresy by the Vatican, it was not necessarily incompatible with Christian doctrine.
It's worth noting that these heresies were not necessarily deviations from Christian orthodoxy, but rather deviations from Catholic doctrine and tradition.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:14 pm to L.A.
Fake news
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:14 pm to Joshjrn
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Defined as? And by who?
By the Bible. The majority of people who call themselves Christians, don’t believe in a literal Hell or refraining from sexual immorality, and those are two subjects Jesus spoke on often.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:14 pm to Joshjrn
Agreed, and I know you knew that.
I've heard others say differently, not today, so I just using your post to reiterate the point.
I've heard others say differently, not today, so I just using your post to reiterate the point.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:15 pm to Joshjrn
quote:To be a Christian, you only have to believe Jesus was murdered by the Romans and that his death was to relieve you of your sins.
If someone believes in the divinity of Jesus the Christ, I would say they are Christians. Everything beyond that is denomination.
The rest is just details.
I am bothered by the thought of a religion based on a murder.
This post was edited on 3/30/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:17 pm to Bullfrog
quote:well, I’ve heard of Jansenism bc of studying about Calvinism
I did not know any of that.
But I didn’t know the others.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:18 pm to Revelator
quote:
By the Bible
Which is why there’s only one, unified, “Christianity”, right?
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:19 pm to L.A.
Buncha damn Unitarians.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:19 pm to Bullfrog
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I am bothered by the thought of a religion based on a murder.
No forgiveness without the spilling of blood.
It's hard to accept when you have grown up soft.
Or you could see it as a sacrifice.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:20 pm to Bullfrog
Well, it was necessary and God-ordained.
Jesus understood this, even if Peter, at first did not.
Jesus understood this, even if Peter, at first did not.
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:20 pm to Joshjrn
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Which is why there’s only one, unified, “Christianity”, right?
You are correct. There is just one Christianity
Posted on 3/30/25 at 3:20 pm to Bullfrog
quote:technically it was a sacrifice that unfortunately includes murder
I am bothered by the thought of a religion based on a murder.
But apparently the Abrahamic God likes sacrifices and blood. And fire, smoke, smiting, and plagues.
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