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re: 9/11 ticket agent is haunted by guilt

Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:18 am to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:18 am to
What about all the other people in the terrorists lives?
What about the flight instructors in Florida?
What about their multiple landlords?
What about the ones who rented cars to them?
Some of the terrorists took a connecting flight from Maine to Boston that morning prior to getting on the doomed flights. What about the folks in Portland, Maine?
It goes on and on.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:20 am to
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I still say there is no way I'm letting someone hijack a plane with a box cutter. Kill a few but you're never getting a plane again


I've wondered how this happened. There had to be some threat of a bomb detonating if anybody tried anything. Or maybe they just thought the plane would land somewhere and ransom would be paid
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12489 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:21 am to
Thanks a lot Vaughn
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27507 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:30 am to
This is before running airplanes into things was a thing. If I'm not mistaken, numerous aircraft had been hijacked in the decades prior and the high jacker always made some demand (cash or release of prisoners etc) and landed the plane when the authorities agreed.

I assume that's what people on the aircraft thought and they assumed it'd be safer to just let the hostage / payment scenario play out like it always had.

No way they knew the hijackers were about to fly them into something.

Ever see the film United 93? It goes off the premise that the passengers had heard what happened to the other hijacked planes and figured the same was about to happen to them, so they did action.
This post was edited on 9/10/16 at 11:32 am
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:31 am to
I think they ran into the cockpit quickly, cut the pilot's throat, and locked it from the inside. I heard one transmission of the pilot or copilot fighting with a hijacker. It is now SOP for the pilot to lock the cockpit door. No idea what happened on 93 or whatever one those people crashed themselves. I think they got word from relatives that their plane had been hijacked, and went into action. None of the other planes' passengers had any idea what was going on
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16791 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 11:59 am to
It's easy to say to stop them now in post 9/11 eyes, but that's not how it was before 9/11.

They had the jump on us, it wasn't something you looked out for and had a plan in your head to even attempt to stop them.

They used a mixture of threatening to blow up the plane with bombs that didn't exist and quick actions to subdue certain people on board with the box cutters. We just weren't prepared for that in that era.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
37538 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:25 pm to
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I still say there is no way I'm letting someone hijack a plane with a box cutter. Kill a few but you're never getting a plane again.




Until that day no hijackers had ever used the plane as a suicide bombing weapon.

They protocol was to just stand down and let the hijackers take the plane where they wanted to go and negotiate as hijacking were typically for political statement and leverage in a larger negotiating goal.

They'd blow a plane up if bringing a bird down was the goal. The guys that took the plane down in PA figured out what the plan was by calling family members and being told of the other planes.

Nowadays, good fricking luck hijacking an American plane. I don't think there's an able bodied American, man, woman or teenager that would just sit down and be a victim without attempting to overwhelm the hijacker. If 12 of you rush after him in a small space a couple will get injured, possibly killed but he's not going to be able to fend off everyone.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59342 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:28 pm to
Why did officials hand a ticketing agent the flight manifest of the deceased?
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
1671 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:33 pm to
my guess is that he knew in his gut that they were terrorists. however in this politically correct culture of ours, he did nothing.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:36 pm to
a ticket agent working at the ticket counter just processes the passenger, doesn't have anything to do with security per se, just per se-ing
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:52 pm to
What about the ground crew that fueled the plane? Did they feel guilty?

Did the pilot's union ever apologize?

Where will this stop?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 9/10/16 at 1:53 pm to
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Did the pilot's union ever apologize?


too busy putting the US airline operation back together
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