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re: 8 people found dead in 18 wheeler trailer at Walmart parking lot

Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:22 am to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67002 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:22 am to
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If you yank out the welcome mat (entitlements) immigration is manageable and good.


I'm all for allowing anyone in the world to have the opportunity to live the American Dream. It has driven 2 centuries worth of people from around the world and IMO what has made The US the superpower it is. Because we took in driven folks it only helped other people be driven and allowed for unparalled growth.
However, allowing in just the freeloaders is only disentigrating what Americans have built.
Certainly people around the world are still driven, so if we took in more driven ones, we can once again become great.
We already have enough lazy people in this country that don't want to work. I wouldn't mind seeing them get replaced with eager immigrants.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16998 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:23 am to
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However, acting like they had a choice to come either legally or illegally is ill informed. There is no way for these kinds of people to just come here legally. If there was, they would do it.


They did have a choice. No one forced them too. I agree it's better here. Living in America is better than anywhere else on Earth, but it's not a God given right, it's a privilege.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:48 am to
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Is life really that bad in Mexico / Central America that you're willing to get into a packed trailer and head into the US?


My wife's family is from Mexico (her great grandmother was born in Cuernavaca (sp?), so I tell everyone "she's the whitest Mexican you've ever met"). That country is a shite hole. There are no social safety nets. Imagine every church on Sunday with 30 beggars outside.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 8:50 am
Posted by Lee Chatelain
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Oct 2008
12566 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:02 am to
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They returned their shitty arse work boots on a daily basis lying and making up shite wrong with them.



You must be well versed with the Spanish language.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 9:03 am
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30584 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:35 am to
Unfortunately this is one of the many situations involving death regarding people crossing the border. Each summer bodies will expire trying to cross the King Ranch, or out in West Texas, Arizona, NM, etc.

These people may work hard for a living here in the states, but as illegals that are undocumented, they won't pay taxes like the rest of us.

For America to continue to be the great melting pot, this shite has got to stop.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:06 am to
A medic? Wow? You're a shitty human being
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
16281 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:14 am to
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There are no social safety nets. Imagine every church on Sunday with 30 beggars outside.


So your answer to this problem is for them to come here pay no taxes and drain our social safety nets without ever contributing.
Thats the problem with the world no one wants to take a stand and say this is my country and i'm not gonna let this happen. In the past thats how revolutions were born. Not today its im out and let somebody else deal with it!
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 10:18 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:28 am to
We have to stop this crap.

And FFS, when is Mexico going to get their shite together?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139229 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:33 am to
Unfortunately, this has been a popular smuggling method for a while.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:40 am to
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Why should i feel bad for these criminals?
they aren't criminals per se. They are violating civil laws, not criminal laws.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:41 am to
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Imagine every church on Sunday with 30 beggars outside.


Sounds like every gas station in Denham springs.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15406 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:51 am to
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These people may work hard for a living here in the states, but as illegals that are undocumented, they won't pay taxes like the rest of us.


Generally speaking, the illegals work hard. Yes they don't pay taxes, but they don't make much either, and if they were documented, wouldn't pay much, if any, in taxes at all. They also take a lot of the shite jobs nobody else is willing to do. Sure it sucks that they make use of some institutions paid for by taxpayers (school, health). But at the end of the day, I have a bigger problem with the welfare kings and queens that are complete mooches and don't work at all, and are generally a bigger detriment to society than the illegal Mexicans.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:55 am to
Won't have to deport those 8.
Posted by SOLA
There
Member since Mar 2014
3821 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:59 am to
Awful
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70472 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:02 am to
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they aren't criminals per se. They are violating civil laws, not criminal laws.





If you are here illegally, you are a criminal.
Posted by Pepperidge
Slidell
Member since Apr 2011
4413 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:10 am to
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If you yank out the welcome mat (entitlements) LEGAL immigration is manageable and good.


FIFY
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
12045 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:11 am to
Not surprised by the lack of empathy in here.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139229 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:14 am to
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And FFS, when is Mexico going to get their shite together?


They've never had to because they know their citizens can just go north and be our problem. Mexico is a massively corrupt government that's never held to account.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:14 am to
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but they don't make much either,


Not true. Many make good money, they just do the work our citizens have turned their nose up at...

Fish processing plant in town, used to employ college students. These kids would live in tents, work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week and make a killing in overtime. Basic pay is low but paychecks were high.

Now that plant is full of people who don't speak English. These people are working themselves into the middle class.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 11:16 am to
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So your answer to this problem is for them to come here pay no taxes and drain our social safety nets without ever contributing


Lol wut? Where did I say that?
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