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re: 75th Anniversary of Operation Overlord and Operation Neptune.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 2:53 pm to jmarto1
Posted on 6/2/19 at 2:53 pm to jmarto1
3 June 1944
Meet the German units defending the 7th Army's Normandy sector:
716th Static Infantry Division: "Static" divisions were stripped of almost all of the vehicular transport that was normally assigned to a regular infantry division. In 1944, normal German Army infantry divisions were not motorized and hadn't very many motor vehicles at all. Much of the transport was by horse and wagon. The Static divisions had even less, so, we are talking about infantry whose job it was to stay in their prepared fighting positions, come what may.
The 716th Static Infantry Division was under-strength AND had no combat experience, so, the British units on D-Day were lucky to have this unit to face on that day.
716th
Meet the German units defending the 7th Army's Normandy sector:
716th Static Infantry Division: "Static" divisions were stripped of almost all of the vehicular transport that was normally assigned to a regular infantry division. In 1944, normal German Army infantry divisions were not motorized and hadn't very many motor vehicles at all. Much of the transport was by horse and wagon. The Static divisions had even less, so, we are talking about infantry whose job it was to stay in their prepared fighting positions, come what may.
The 716th Static Infantry Division was under-strength AND had no combat experience, so, the British units on D-Day were lucky to have this unit to face on that day.
716th
Posted on 6/2/19 at 2:57 pm to Champagne
Defending Utah Beach and the US Airborne Division landing zones on 2 June 1944:
709th Static Infantry Division
709th
Both of the mentioned static divisions each contained one battalion of "Ost" troops. The Ost troops were Soviet POWs from the various minority groups in the Soviet Union that were opposed to that Totalitarian regime. Ukrainians, ethnic Turks, and even one or two ethnic Koreans that were handed over by the Japanese, were some of the ethnic groups found in the Ost troops. Legend has it that a pair of ex-LSU students from South Stadium room 316 were among the Ost troops.
709th Static Infantry Division
709th
Both of the mentioned static divisions each contained one battalion of "Ost" troops. The Ost troops were Soviet POWs from the various minority groups in the Soviet Union that were opposed to that Totalitarian regime. Ukrainians, ethnic Turks, and even one or two ethnic Koreans that were handed over by the Japanese, were some of the ethnic groups found in the Ost troops. Legend has it that a pair of ex-LSU students from South Stadium room 316 were among the Ost troops.
This post was edited on 6/2/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/3/19 at 8:52 am to Champagne
Saturday, 3 June 1944
Deception operations today include extensive Allied bombing of the German-held port city Boulogne near Calais. Most of the German high command expect the Invasion of France to occur in this area. Adolf Hitler alone still expects the landings at Normandy.
Allied ground forces are closing in on Rome and have captured its outskirts. German Field Marshal Kesselring, commander of Axis forces in Italy, declares Rome to be an "open city".
Meanwhile in England, D-Day is scheduled for Monday, June 5th, 1944. The troops scheduled for hitting the beaches are loading onto the embarkation ships.
Deception operations today include extensive Allied bombing of the German-held port city Boulogne near Calais. Most of the German high command expect the Invasion of France to occur in this area. Adolf Hitler alone still expects the landings at Normandy.
Allied ground forces are closing in on Rome and have captured its outskirts. German Field Marshal Kesselring, commander of Axis forces in Italy, declares Rome to be an "open city".
Meanwhile in England, D-Day is scheduled for Monday, June 5th, 1944. The troops scheduled for hitting the beaches are loading onto the embarkation ships.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 9:43 am to Champagne
quote:
On this day, 75 years ago, Operation Chattanooga Choo Choo commenced.
Hotter chicks but liked Transylvania 6-5000 better.

Posted on 6/3/19 at 9:54 am to fr33manator
That's not a Normandy Invasion Map.
This... is a Normandy Invasion Map.


This... is a Normandy Invasion Map.

Posted on 6/3/19 at 8:09 pm to WWII Collector
Evening, 3 June 1944
Meteorologists Disagree: Some of the invasion fleet is already sailing towards Normandy. All of the invasion ground forces are battened down on-board ships at the embarkation ports. The invasion is set for 5 JUNE 1944 and the Paratrooper Pathfinder units are making final preparation for launching their missions of marking the Drop Zones in Normandy.
One hold-up is the weather and the weathermen who disagree about that weather. The phone rings in Eisenhower's quarters. His Chief of Staff urgently wants to convene a meeting to discuss the weather reports -- seems some of the British meteorologists are worried.
Ike is informed that it seems likely right now that the weather will be too stormy to launch D-Day on 5 June. Ike wants to wait as long as he can before cancellation or postponement. The men are already on-board the ship, in uncomfortable, crowded conditions. Many of them are sea-sick. Ike realizes that it would be a major set-back to unload the ships and wait for better weather. How long could they keep the operation a secret after such a set-back?
D Day Weather
Meteorologists Disagree: Some of the invasion fleet is already sailing towards Normandy. All of the invasion ground forces are battened down on-board ships at the embarkation ports. The invasion is set for 5 JUNE 1944 and the Paratrooper Pathfinder units are making final preparation for launching their missions of marking the Drop Zones in Normandy.
One hold-up is the weather and the weathermen who disagree about that weather. The phone rings in Eisenhower's quarters. His Chief of Staff urgently wants to convene a meeting to discuss the weather reports -- seems some of the British meteorologists are worried.
Ike is informed that it seems likely right now that the weather will be too stormy to launch D-Day on 5 June. Ike wants to wait as long as he can before cancellation or postponement. The men are already on-board the ship, in uncomfortable, crowded conditions. Many of them are sea-sick. Ike realizes that it would be a major set-back to unload the ships and wait for better weather. How long could they keep the operation a secret after such a set-back?
D Day Weather
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 6/3/19 at 8:15 pm to Champagne
quote:Probably about a day
How long could they keep the operation a secret after such a set-back?
Posted on 6/3/19 at 8:24 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Probably about a day
Ike's worry is that if they are forced to unload the ships and put the invasion troops back on the ground in England while they wait for better weather, the Germans might find out about the operation.
On 3 June, Ike learns that the forecast is for bad weather not only for 5 June, but, also for 6 June. No meteorologist could forecast beyond 6 June. On the evening of 3 June, it seems reasonably certain is that the weather for 5 June is forecast to be too poor to launch any air or airborne operations.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 10:07 pm to Champagne
These are internet images of the weather pattern images for D Day and a day or so before... I believe June 3,4,5,&6
Both the Germans and the Allies had remote weather stations...
Sure wish that we could direct link photos from other sites...

Both the Germans and the Allies had remote weather stations...
Sure wish that we could direct link photos from other sites...
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 6/4/19 at 9:26 am to WWII Collector
Sunday, 4 June 1944
ROME IS LIBERATED. Allied ground forces capture Rome with its Tiber River bridges intact. The Eternal City is in Allied hands. The Germans declared Rome an Open City, and there was no fighting inside the city.
Royal Air Force meteorologist Group Captain James Stagg recommends that Overlord be postponed one day from June 5 to the 6th because of bad weather. General Eisenhower follows his advice and postpones D-Day by 24 hours. Indeed, it is not certain that 24 hours will be a sufficient time for the weather to improve.
The troops are on-board the ships in the embarkation ports. All is in readiness.
ROME IS LIBERATED. Allied ground forces capture Rome with its Tiber River bridges intact. The Eternal City is in Allied hands. The Germans declared Rome an Open City, and there was no fighting inside the city.
Royal Air Force meteorologist Group Captain James Stagg recommends that Overlord be postponed one day from June 5 to the 6th because of bad weather. General Eisenhower follows his advice and postpones D-Day by 24 hours. Indeed, it is not certain that 24 hours will be a sufficient time for the weather to improve.
The troops are on-board the ships in the embarkation ports. All is in readiness.
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:40 am to Champagne
General Dwight Eisenhower gives pep talk to US paratroopers before they board planes for D-Day assault, 75 years ago this week:
General Dwight Eisenhower gives pep talk

General Dwight Eisenhower gives pep talk
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:48 am to Champagne
All-black balloon unit served with distinction on D-Day
"The 320th VLA was the only black combat unit to take part in the D-Day landings and was the only barrage balloon battalion to land on the beaches. Units from the 320th landed on both Omaha and Utah beaches and, if you look at pictures of the D-Day beachhead and you see barrage balloons there, they were manned by three to five black troops from the 320th," said Jonathan Bernstein, Army Air Defense Artillery Museum director here. "The first Soldiers from the battalion landed on Omaha Beach at 9 a.m., two hours after the invasion began. The first balloon was floated at 11:15 p.m. that night, and by the next day all of their balloons were knocked out by German artillery fire. But, they were resupplied and were able to quickly float new balloons."
"Once deployed the balloons had steel cables hanging down from them, which would neatly slice off an airplane's wing if it hit the cables at 300 or 400 miles per hour. The 320th battalion did actually score a confirmed "kill" by cutting off the wing of a Junkers Ju-88 over Omaha Beach on D-Day," Bernstein said.
All-black balloon unit served with distinction on D-Day
George Davison scrawled the names of his buddies from the 320th on this snapshot taken in Octeville, France, in July 1944. (Photo courtesy of Bill Davison)

"The 320th VLA was the only black combat unit to take part in the D-Day landings and was the only barrage balloon battalion to land on the beaches. Units from the 320th landed on both Omaha and Utah beaches and, if you look at pictures of the D-Day beachhead and you see barrage balloons there, they were manned by three to five black troops from the 320th," said Jonathan Bernstein, Army Air Defense Artillery Museum director here. "The first Soldiers from the battalion landed on Omaha Beach at 9 a.m., two hours after the invasion began. The first balloon was floated at 11:15 p.m. that night, and by the next day all of their balloons were knocked out by German artillery fire. But, they were resupplied and were able to quickly float new balloons."
"Once deployed the balloons had steel cables hanging down from them, which would neatly slice off an airplane's wing if it hit the cables at 300 or 400 miles per hour. The 320th battalion did actually score a confirmed "kill" by cutting off the wing of a Junkers Ju-88 over Omaha Beach on D-Day," Bernstein said.
All-black balloon unit served with distinction on D-Day
George Davison scrawled the names of his buddies from the 320th on this snapshot taken in Octeville, France, in July 1944. (Photo courtesy of Bill Davison)

Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:52 am to Tiger Ree
Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:39 pm to Tiger Ree
I surmise that the fights were so common because the men were all very drunk.
THAT is why American Commanders today are so wise to PROHIBIT alcohol consumption for all deployed military personnel. It must work because the US military personnel are no longer having drunken brawls with Allied military personnel.

THAT is why American Commanders today are so wise to PROHIBIT alcohol consumption for all deployed military personnel. It must work because the US military personnel are no longer having drunken brawls with Allied military personnel.

Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:28 am to Champagne
Monday, 5 June 1944.
"OK, we'll go."
With one phrase, Ike launches D-Day. Initial operations begin after nightfall tonight.
D-Day Weather
"OK, we'll go."
With one phrase, Ike launches D-Day. Initial operations begin after nightfall tonight.
D-Day Weather
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:39 am to Champagne
I was floating off the coast of Normandy for the 50th Anniversary of D-Day.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:48 am to Champagne
quote:
That sounds awesome.
It was pretty cool. I was onboard the U.S.S. George Washington.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:57 am to Saint Alfonzo
To those that served that day.



Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:07 am to Champagne
My Great Uncle was there as a Sargent with the 893rd Tank Destroyer Battalion. They fought in Normandy on D-Day.
After that, they rolled into liberate Paris. He was killed a couple of days after liberation in August in Mitry Mory and was awarded a Bronze Star posthumously.
After that, they rolled into liberate Paris. He was killed a couple of days after liberation in August in Mitry Mory and was awarded a Bronze Star posthumously.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 9:13 am
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