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5 Ways Rank-and-File Leathernecks Are Disrupting the Marine Corps *VERY LONG*

Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:49 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:49 pm
**VERY LONG ARTICLE FOR THOSE ILLITERATE PEOPLE HERE**

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MARINE CORPS BASE QUANTICO, Va. -- Hundreds of Marines who gathered here last week were given a risky mission: to challenge their leaders when they're doing something that doesn't make sense.

That will be essential as the Marine Corps prepares to take on future adversaries, Commandant Gen. Robert Neller told attendees here at the third-annual Innovation Symposium.


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"We've got to go faster; we've got to be more willing to take risks," he said. "The only thing we can't accept is not being willing to change. We've got to change."

Being innovative in an organization as steeped in tradition as the Marine Corps, which also lives by its rank structure, doesn't come easy. Leaders might not like what their junior Marines have to say, Neller warned, but the Corps needs people willing to challenge the status quo.


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Here are five ways some of those rank-and-file leathernecks think they can shake up the service.


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1. EMPOWERING THE DISRUPTERS.


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Sgt. Ryan Reeder says it's time for the Marine Corps to go through a culture shift. The infantry assaultman is getting ready to leave the service, and it's not because his military occupational specialty is being phased out.

"No one incentivizes innovators," said Reeder, an infantry assaultman who's been studying computer science and will leave the Marine Corps later this year. "... I can go get a six-figure job anywhere I want to. I want to stay in the Marine Corps, but innovation isn't recognized."

Reeder's been serving with the Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory's noncommissioned officer fellowship program, which allows corporals and sergeants to test concepts and gear before they hit the fleet. NCOs who are willing to speak up offer some vital insight, he said, and leaders should want them to become the next staff NCOs.

"A lot of people don't like a sergeant coming up here and talking to a star or a colonel like I do," he said. "But ... it's all about the ideas, not the rank that you wear."


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2. CROWDSOURCING IDEAS.


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Marines face plenty of problems throughout their careers, and it can be tough to know if a solution already exists. Chief Warrant Officer 4 Sean Flores, a utilities officer with III Marine Expeditionary Force, helped build Phase Zero, a platform where Marines can share their problems and solutions in real-time.

"Maybe you're trying to deal with countering [unmanned aerial vehicles]. Somebody else might've already solved that problem," Flores said. "So you source it out, and some subject-matter expert might chime in and say, 'This is how we dealt with it' or 'We're having the same problem, so let's work on it together and collaborate.' "

Phase Zero had its soft opening on the marines.mil website earlier this year. Now, Flores said, they're looking for Marines willing to help edit, code and moderate the site


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3. "FLATTENING THE BATTALION."


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In order to prepare for the future, Neller said the Corps can't just take legacy gear and make it a little bit better. "We've got to change the force," he said.

Two officers with 2nd Battalion, 1st Marines -- 1st Lts. Christopher Mershon and Walker Mills -- have ideas about what needs to change. They call it "flattening the battalion," and they say it will move infantry units from the 20th century into the 21st.

Infantry units are set up in a pyramid structure and built for efficiency, Mershon said. Flattening them out by eliminating non-combat command billets would instead optimize them for adaptability. By integrating logistics and intelligence officers and analysts at the company level and sharing information from across the battlespace, Mershon said, it'll allow commanders to make decisions faster.

"We're making the correct relationships in our battalion because those relationships with our friends close our decision-making cycle," he added. Mills and Mershon also propose removing Marines performing administrative functions from the battalion, such as the headquarters and service or weapons platoon commanders. Those extra personnel could be moved into a training cadre, which Mills said would help relieve some of the strain on company commanders, and provide higher-quality training across the whole unit.


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4. IMPROVING TRAINING.


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Over the next decade, the Marine Corps' maintenance depots will lose about 1,000 years of experience when officers and staff NCOs assigned to them retire. Those on their way out have come up with ways to get their replacements trained up quickly.

"Is the workforce we're going to hire going to adhere to paper manuals that stack four feet high?" asked Maj. Dan Whitt with the Marine Corps Logistics Command innovation cell. Instead, depot personnel pitched moving toward animated digital manuals that display on a pair of augmented-reality glasses.

"We have 400 pieces of equipment we work on," Whitt said. "How great would it be to speed up our training requirements?"

Now, other commands, including Training and Education Command, want to see what they can do with augmented-reality manuals. That's why it's important for Marines who have innovative ideas that could revolutionize the Corps to share them so they don't go unheard, Whitt said.


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5. FINDING THE BEST APPROACH.


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When Staff Sgt. Alex Long was a lance corporal, he learned about those risks the commandant mentioned about challenging your leaders. When one of Long's NCOs asked his Marines what they thought about his plan, Long didn't hold back when he replied that it was stupid.

"That resulted in some quick and effective counseling," he said. When Long was asked by his sergeant during one of his counseling sessions to define "tact," he realized his mistake. His leaders weren't offended by his ideas, but by his approach. He decided to work on his delivery in order to make his voice heard.

"Data has no rank," said Long, who would go on to win the Marine Corps' 2016 Innovation Challenge for a lightweight wearable device that allows Marines to communicate and resupply quickly. "You just have to know how to present it."


Thoughts?
Posted by DustyDinkleman
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:51 pm to
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Thoughts?



TL; DR
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by TDcline
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:57 pm to
Read it.

A lot of it makes sense but they really over complicated the problem/s. The Marine Corps needs to function as a war-fighting machine and ONLY THAT. When I was in, 2006-2010 active duty, we were at war and the Marine Corps was built around fighting wars.

Of course that was under Mattis. Many of my friends who stayed in talk about the culture shift and the willingness of high level SNCOs and Officers to go full PC.

Culture needs to go back to Spartan type training and cutting throats, not pushing women through SOI. Leave that to the Army Rangers
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 8:58 pm to
Also why did you break it up into a bunch of different quotes when you posted the whole article?
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:00 pm to
As a squad leader it wasn't hard for me to tell who in my squad had intelligence and who didn't. Regardless of rank. The problem is there are too many squad leader, plt sgt's, and plt cmmdrs who are complete idiots who play the my way or the highway.

Also i'm pretty sure every Marine ever has complained about training. There is zero way to simulate getting shot at. Also, they should be more specific about what kind of fight we're training for. When I got to the fleet we were training counter insurgency. However as I got out we shifted to training for near peer threats half the time. Very inconsistent.

In my experience though I'd say about 65% of the Marines I encountered, regardless of rank, were complete idiots whose opinions should probably never be heard
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:02 pm to
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Of course that was under Mattis. Many of my friends who stayed in talk about the culture shift and the willingness of high level SNCOs and Officers to go full PC.


Obama got rid of all the warfighters, Mattis being the main one. The Marine Corps is now full of NCOs that have never deployed reason being is hardly any of the NCOs and SNCOs that went through Iraq and Afghanistan were allowed to stay in.
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:04 pm to
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Long, who would go on to win the Marine Corps' 2016 Innovation Challenge for a lightweight wearable device that allows Marines to communicate and resupply quickly.


So this dude invented the Amazon button?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:05 pm to
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In my experience though I'd say about 65% of the Marines I encountered, regardless of rank, were complete idiots whose opinions should probably never be heard


I think you could say that about the entire enlisted side of the military.

Eta: I think you and I went to Parris Island around the same time, I remember you posting a thread that you were going to boot camp about the same time I did.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:06 pm to
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Phase Zero, a platform where Marines can share their problems and solutions in real-time.


So basically a Tigerdroppings for marines.

First thread: Are MREs trashy?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:08 pm to
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First thread: Why is everybody in the Navy queer?


FIFY
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:09 pm to
I honestly think i'm being generous with 65%.

Out of the 25 or so guys in our platoon that got out all within the past year. There are two of us at any sort of university.

Which is insane because as veteran on the GI Bill I can pick any state in the country find a college or trade school there, get all tuition, fees, books paid for, and get a check from the government once a month for my rent and food. A lot of veterans make excuses, lack of education can’t be one.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 9:11 pm
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9504 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:09 pm to
Absolutely correct.

Many weren’t allowed to re-enlist because they had “too many visible tattoos”, of course that removes a large amount of your combat experienced personnel.

I blame Obama but also the SJW commandant the replaced Mattis. Retirement guarding cuck piece of shite.
Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:10 pm to
This is what happens when SJW Zoomies are allowed to post here.

fricking Chair Force.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:12 pm to
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I blame Obama but also the SJW commandant the replaced Mattis. Retirement guarding cuck piece of shite.


Mattis was never Commandant. But you’re thinking of Gen. Amos. I think he was the first POG to ever become Commandant of the USMC. A damn shame if you ask me.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:13 pm to
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So basically a Tigerdroppings for marines.

First thread: Are MREs trashy?

Jody board
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:16 pm to
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Out of the 25 or so guys in our platoon that got out all within the past year. There are two of us at any sort of university.


That’s pretty shitty, that’s how you end up with homeless vets right there. You get a bunch of guys, early-mid-20s getting out that since they were around 18 haven’t really had a whole lot of responsibility and then just turn em loose and tell em ‘good luck and tyfys.’ They need that structure and purpose in their lives once they get out and hell, it’s fricking free!
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39564 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:19 pm to
My God, if these sort of things were in place 20 years ago I’d probably
still be in today.
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14798 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 9:25 pm to
None of it’s in place. Generals for some reason think privates have good ideas and tell us to listen to them. Maybe 3% of them do and well if you were a rock solid Marine your idea would be considered as long as you had a decent team leader/ squad leader.
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