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re: 30A and Public Beach Access

Posted on 5/4/25 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45936 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 1:25 pm to
Tide has it correct, it’s the ultimate NIMBY issue but it’s lead by billionaires etc that want to own the beach, water and air. If you are from Louisiana just think canals or the west access to parks and public hunting land. It’s all the same issue, I got mine, and I want to be a mini god and shouldn’t have to see any riff raft or people on my retreat etc.

Elon and Zuckerberg are claiming entire islands in Hawaii and kicking out natives that have lived their 10000 years and claiming entire watersheds and planets.

This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
632 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 1:51 pm to
The ECL in Walton County really covers the beach area around Sandestin. That is where sand was added at one point.

And the continued piling on about Huckabee by the room temp IQ crowd is entertaining. Huckabee suggested a compromise between the county and beach front owners during the high season for visitors. To be sure, not all beachfront owners were on board with that. The

AND the area where Huckabee had a house (he moved away several years ago) is part of a neighborhood where everyone has beach access. Regardless if you were beachfront or not.

And those that knew Mike and his family and how they supported the area had only positive comments about the entire family.

As several have noted, Walton County sold the beachfront property and provided a deed to all owners. It’s America - and its citizens have all rights to their own property.

The entitlement crowd should be pressing the county to buy more beachfront property as a need. This is in their basket to address.



Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11789 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

have a place just north of 30A and this has been a long time coming. We were on the verge of selling since the crowds have been so bad since Covid.


I live here. The crowds have dropped off substantially. Covid was a double whammy of wealthy people who could not travel internationally and lower middle income people who were getting stimulus money.

The rich people are bored with 30A and are traveling to other locations, and lower incomes can’t afford to come anymore.

It’s been great. There are still a lot of tourists, but it’s a much more manageable amount than it was from 2021 to 2023.

As far as the beach law goes, the existing statute very bizarrely only applied to Walton County. The rest of the state has public beach use age but with limited access points.

I support allowing people to use the beach. You can limit the access points, but once people are on the beach, it’s public.

I am a member of the beach club, so it wasn’t an issue for me. However, I still support public access.
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
632 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 2:12 pm to
How rich - you belong to The Beach Club with private beach.

AND of course you are for public access on “others” private property.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43148 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 2:25 pm to


quote:

I am a member of the beach club, so it wasn’t an issue for me. However, I still support public access.
just not at the beach club
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
86407 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

30a is now poor country
had been forever, I haven't been since the 90's.
Posted by Boomer Rick
Member since Apr 2021
246 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 3:10 pm to
I don’t think many are doing that. I’m sure a few are.

You are upset that so many people are successful and can afford it so you pretend they are stretched. Bitterness and jealousy are ugly things.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70266 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 3:35 pm to
quote:


I don’t think many are doing that. I’m sure a few are.

You are upset that so many people are successful and can afford it so you pretend they are stretched. Bitterness and jealousy are ugly things.



As an ATLien surrounded by 30A stickers, I can vouch for the guy you are replying to. There's a lot of those people that match his description perfectly.


Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
2307 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

Elon and Zuckerberg are claiming entire islands in Hawaii and kicking out natives that have lived their 10000 years and claiming entire watersheds and planets.


Don’t forget Oprah and The Rock.

The natives, as you called them, sold it. They didn’t kick them out. The kids that inherited their ancestors land don’t give a frick about their culture. They want the $$$.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
6504 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 6:04 pm to
Will you let me come set up a tent and chair in your backyard all day?

I don’t think so. Why should those who own beachfront property allow you to do the same?

You can walk through, as the law allows, but don’t stop and set up your fricking picnic all day long.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45936 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:43 pm to
Take it from an old rich man, money isn’t everything bro
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11789 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

AND of course you are for public access on “others” private property.


Whose property are you referring to? No one owns the sand on the beach.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45936 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:47 pm to
That’s partly true but natives establishing they actually own the land is very difficult. As a rich mfer I love how all you bitches say it’s ok if I frick you as long as I have more money and power, (and I do ). As I lawyer I know this is completely bullshite
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11789 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:52 pm to
quote:

I love how all you bitches say it’s ok if I frick you as long as I have more money and power


I have no idea what you were talking about, or how that applies to me.
Posted by BuyloSellhi
The South
Member since May 2017
632 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:10 pm to
Again.

The beachfront owners in Walton County have deeds that show the southern boundary of said lot is the MHWL. This includes the sand area north of the MHW to their northern boundary.

Walton County sold these properties 60 plus years ago to raise needed funds for the county.

This is easy research.

It is certainly not popular for those that are unaware of the county’s past transactions and actions.

It is the enormous greed of developers who want this to change so they can build hotels and rental complexes. And they are aiming the fault at beachfront owners who have done ZERO wrong.

If the property is that valuable for their wanted developments, they can always come to the table.







Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
2307 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:42 pm to
Yup. Everything is negotiable. It’s an oddball situation for that part of the Florida coastline but it happened. They own the beach. If you want to blame someone, blame Walton County.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45936 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:48 pm to
Let me give you an update on this bullshite. Even though the state has managed the beach forever, Walton County did in fact do this, although I would argue they never really had the right to so, they won in Court so “res ipsa loquitor” but that’s not what has me pissed off.

Now these mfer Karen’s claim they own the GD water too and I have had buddies that are surf fishing and clearly below the mean tide mark, getting yelled at by these bitches as they are fishing. (For any fricking Karen’s reading this shite that isn’t the same mfering thing as being in the water. Look it up mfers.)

Florida has a statue making it a misdemeanor to harass fishermen so I have been trying to get them to file charges against the bitches.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
2307 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:50 pm to
Actually Google AI says 60% of Florida coastline is privately owned. Interesting.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45936 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:51 pm to
In Florida law, the mean high-water line defines the boundary between state-owned foreshore and privately owned upland, as stated in Florida Statutes 177.28. It represents the intersection of the tidal plane of mean high water with the shore. The mean high-water line is determined by averaging the height of the high tides over a 19-year period.

Again fisherman can walk along beach as long as below mean tide line which is not the fricking water line
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 8:52 pm
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
2307 posts
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:54 pm to
Well tell your buddies to tell them to frick off.

If they won’t file charges against them, well that’s on your buddies.

Your buddies need to man the frick up.
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