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re: 3 year old boys freezes to death outside of home
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:51 am to Wtodd
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:51 am to Wtodd
Jumping the gun, bro.
I bet they're second guessing every move they ever made as parents and living in agony. What should they have done? Super child proof locked the door from the inside? Maybe. Does everyone do this? Of course not. This thought never crossed their minds, and now they lost their baby boy and live with it.
I bet they're second guessing every move they ever made as parents and living in agony. What should they have done? Super child proof locked the door from the inside? Maybe. Does everyone do this? Of course not. This thought never crossed their minds, and now they lost their baby boy and live with it.
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Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:52 am to ZereauxSum
Child locks have been invented since your post. Gates, a bell on his door, baby monitor. So many reasonable rationale ways to ensure this child was still alive. That's my simple view point.
Yours is that it's okay, preventable accidents that kill children just happen.
Odd...
Yours is that it's okay, preventable accidents that kill children just happen.
Odd...
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:53 am to TIGRLEE
And that is why we put door guardians on when my child was 2. Things worked like a charm. The child doesn't need them anymore but we keep them on for extra security.
Door Guardians
Door Guardians
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:54 am to SabiDojo
quote:
if you don't have top latches on your door
Clearly unreasonable to have such a thing. Accidents happen, who knows why?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:55 am to Globalx39
It's nuts the amount of things you have to protect your children from. My boy is only 13 months and we are always discovering new things he can do and get in to.
Like one of the comments on the article said, a determined 3 year old can get anywhere.
Like one of the comments on the article said, a determined 3 year old can get anywhere.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:55 am to ZereauxSum
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a 3 yo is perfectly capable of unlocking and opening a front door.
A 3 year old is capable of doing several dangerous things, like drinking chemicals or turning on a stove. It's the guardians' job to make sure they can't get to those things. If the door can be easily unlocked, there needs to be a higher latch to prevent him from getting out.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:56 am to Mizzoufan26
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Yours is that it's okay, preventable accidents that kill children just happen.
Because that's exactly what I said.
Not giving you the benefit of the doubt anymore. You're clearly an idiot.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:56 am to Globalx39
These are great ideas and the logic is rock solid.
But there is no definitive guide for all parents and it is entirely possible that this possibility didn't cross their minds.
They now hate themselves and no longer have a son. This type of situation brings awareness to so many, and can help those who may not have thought about it.
Is every parent that sees this story, rethinks their child protection strategy and happens to be fortunate enough that their child hasn't already wandered a bad parent? I don't think so.
But there is no definitive guide for all parents and it is entirely possible that this possibility didn't cross their minds.
They now hate themselves and no longer have a son. This type of situation brings awareness to so many, and can help those who may not have thought about it.
Is every parent that sees this story, rethinks their child protection strategy and happens to be fortunate enough that their child hasn't already wandered a bad parent? I don't think so.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 11:58 am
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:57 am to STBTigerr
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A 3 year old is capable of doing several dangerous things, like drinking chemicals or turning on a stove.
We stopped buying those dishwasher pods because we read a few stories about kids eating them because they look like candy.
Of course, that looks appealing.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:58 am to Mizzoufan26
quote:
Mizzoufan26
I don't even have kids and I know a 3 year old is very capable of opening a door (and more). I'm a very heavy sleeper and would never wake up to the sound of a kid going outside.
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Child locks have been invented since your post. Gates, a bell on his door, baby monitor
My 4 yo nephew is a master at getting past child locks. Bell/baby monitor - would never wake me up.
Not suggesting that these parents/grandparents couldn't have done more but it's silly to act like they're criminals.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 11:59 am to TigerNutts
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t. This thought never crossed their minds, and now they lost their baby boy and live with it.
Reminds me of the Congressional hearing on Apollo 1. When asked who was to blame, the answer given was: I'm to blame. You are to blame. Everybody at NASA is to blame. Because, while we knew there was a good possibility of losing astronauts in space, we never in a million years considered the possibility of losing any on the ground.
That lack of imagination from everybody was what got them killed.
Paraphrased, but the point was made. Sometimes you just can't see every bad possibility.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:00 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:
So from what I've seen so far in this post.. mizzou posters are pretty fricking stupid. .
No dickhead, Mizzou posters are the only ones with alarms on their doors.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:01 pm to Wtodd
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:02 pm to SabiDojo
This is correct Sabdio. All of my children had moved from cribs to a bed around age two. And yes, Sabdio, they are capable of getting into places, or out of places with relative ease. My three year old baby monkey, as I call her, is extremely adventuresome and I have to watch her always. I found her one day last week in our pantry. She had climbed all the way to the top shelf and was sitting up there eating cookies I thought were out of reach.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:04 pm to TIGRLEE
That's scary.
My brother told me my 3 year old nephew doesn't always sleep through the night and will wake up and go into the kitchen and play.
My brother told me my 3 year old nephew doesn't always sleep through the night and will wake up and go into the kitchen and play.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:07 pm to Wtodd
quote:
No dickhead, Mizzou posters are the only ones with alarms on their doors.
We took the door knob on our daughter's bedroom door and flipped it around so we could lock her in. There is a baby monitor in there.
But I can honestly say that I would never dream that she would leave her room, wander downstairs, open the front door and walk out into the winter night to die (despite the fact she is totally capable), so I'm going to refrain from being an a-hole and denouncing these grieving parents as peices of shite.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:13 pm to ZereauxSum
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We took the door knob on our daughter's bedroom door and flipped it around so we could lock her in. There is a baby monitor in there.
I get it... but that could go really wrong.
I snuck out a couple times when I was 3... to collect bugs at night, apparently (I only remember the spanking).
All bedrooms upstairs... snuck out a sliding door downstairs (climbed a chair to get the top lock). Fortunately it was summer. Parents heard me thumping around on the deck. Tried to hide from them but the coffee tin full of locusts gave me away.
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:16 pm to yurintroubl
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I get it... but that could go really wrong.
I snuck out a couple times when I was 3... to collect bugs at night, apparently (I only remember the spanking).
All bedrooms upstairs... snuck out a sliding door downstairs (climbed a chair to get the top lock). Fortunately it was summer. Parents heard me thumping around on the deck. Tried to hide from them but the coffee tin full of locusts gave me away.
Unless you know how to pick a lock at 3, how do you do this if the door is locked from the outside?
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:21 pm to ZereauxSum
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how do you do this if the door is locked from the outside?
When she shits in her room - get back to me.
ETA:
Misunderstood -
They had one of those locking bars on the sliding glass door. Had it above my reach. I figured it out.
This post was edited on 3/2/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 3/2/15 at 12:22 pm to yurintroubl
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When she shits in her room - get back to me.
She does it all the time. She has a potty and is potty trained
Not really sure what you're trying to do/prove here.
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