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re: 2018 Stella Awards
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:48 pm to DemonKA3268
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:48 pm to DemonKA3268
r/forwardsfromgrandma
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:52 pm to colorchangintiger
200 is perfect for brewing, but McDonald's and Starbucks, et al serve it way too hot. It could be the best cup ever served, but it's useless if it burns my tongue on the first sip.
But she got very fricked up by it and only original sought $20k to pay her medical bills. She ended up only being awarded $640k, not $2.8mil.
But she got very fricked up by it and only original sought $20k to pay her medical bills. She ended up only being awarded $640k, not $2.8mil.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:52 pm to colorchangintiger
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140-150. McDonald's was keeping their coffee at around 200 degrees because they found if they cranked the temp, it smelled stronger, leading to more coffee sales. Also, Stella was only awarded what McDonald's made on coffee sales alone per day at the time
Still excessive. Yes the coffee was too hot but she spilled it.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:53 pm to DemonKA3268
And if it were a safe temperature, she wouldn't have been severely burned by spilling it.
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Liebeck was taken to the hospital, where it was determined that she had suffered third-degree burns on six percent of her skin and lesser burns over sixteen percent. She remained in the hospital for eight days while she underwent skin grafting. During this period, Liebeck lost 20 pounds (9.1 kg) (nearly 20% of her body weight), reducing her to 83 pounds (38 kg). After the hospital stay, Liebeck needed care for 3 weeks, which was provided by her daughter. Liebeck suffered permanent disfigurement after the incident and was partially disabled for two years
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:56 pm to TH03
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And if it were a safe temperature, she wouldn't have been severely burned by spilling it.
True but who spilled it?
Liebeck died on August 5, 2004, at age 91. According to her daughter, "the burns and court proceedings (had taken) their toll" and in the years following the settlement Liebeck had "no quality of life", and that the settlement had paid for a live-in nurse.
She died at 91, most people won't get close to that age.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:58 pm to DemonKA3268
quote:Im pretty sure it burned her vagina to the point of being useless
She died at 91, most people won't get close to that age
So yeh, I might live to be an old age but I will consider my quality of life pretty shitty if my penis is burned off
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:59 pm to DemonKA3268
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True but who spilled it?
It doesn't really matter. It was given to her at an extremely high temperature. There should be a reasonable expectation that by spilling it, it's not going to severely burn her vaginal area. Had it been given to her at a safe temperature, there are no burns.
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Liebeck died on August 5, 2004, at age 91. According to her daughter, "the burns and court proceedings (had taken) their toll" and in the years following the settlement Liebeck had "no quality of life", and that the settlement had paid for a live-in nurse.
She died at 91, most people won't get close to that age
This has absolutely nothing to do with anything related to the facts of the suit.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:59 pm to lsupride87
She was 91 baw, she lost the right to complain about suffering. 
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:01 pm to TH03
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This has absolutely nothing to do with anything related to the facts of the suit.
Exactly but for her daughter to say that, GTFOH.
So if I get hurt in a crash, I sue the auto maker? Get shot by a gun, sue the gun maker? Get a paper cut, sue the paper company? Whether the coffee was hot or not, she caused the injury to herself. I'm not saying McDonalds couldn't have done more to help with this situation but you know as well as I do, it is all about making money, not spending it. They still serve their coffee at the same temperature.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:04 pm to DemonKA3268
The documentary "Hot Coffee" is a pretty good watch about the McDonalds case
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:07 pm to weadjust
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The documentary "Hot Coffee" is a pretty good watch about the McDonalds case
I watched this, it was pretty good. It was an accident (self-induced) and you feel bad for her but not for the amount of money awarded. Even the reduced amount was frivolous.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:11 pm to lsupride87
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Im pretty sure it burned her vagina to the point of being useless So yeh, I might live to be an old age but I will consider my quality of life pretty shitty if my penis is burned off
Was she still using it at 71? It is different.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:15 pm to colorchangintiger
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140-150. McDonald's was keeping their coffee at around 200 degrees because they found if they cranked the temp, it smelled stronger, leading to more coffee sales.
That’s was probably part of it, but I think the main reason was because if they kept it hot enough customers inside the store would have to wait for it to cool off before drinking it leading to less customers asking for refills before leaving.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:16 pm to DemonKA3268
Everybody on that list and the jurors who gave them cash ought to be hung
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:17 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:You going to hang them with a fake rope?
Everybody on that list and the jurors who gave them cash ought to be hung
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:18 pm to DemonKA3268
quote:At 71 I am going to come and burn your penis off. You shouldnt mind
Was she still using it at 71? It is different.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:21 pm to lsupride87
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At 71 I am going to come and burn your penis off. You shouldnt mind
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:21 pm to DemonKA3268
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Still excessive. Yes the coffee was too hot but she spilled it.
Shut up, stupid.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:23 pm to JamesLang
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Shut up, stupid.
Wow, that 8th grade education sure paid off for you, huh?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:25 pm to DemonKA3268
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