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re: >1million doses of Oxy. Gonna be more Hey-Ron addicts now
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:54 pm to SamuelClemens
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:54 pm to SamuelClemens
Some of the misconceptions in this thread are mind boggling and probably a good representation of how far we still need to go to truly treat a massive opioid epidemic in this country.
They are here in Kentucky. And you're seeing it in everything from wealthy soccer moms to run of the mill junkies. We literally have people ODing in rush hour traffic in "good" parts of the city.
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They make is sound like every other person is using this stuff!
They are here in Kentucky. And you're seeing it in everything from wealthy soccer moms to run of the mill junkies. We literally have people ODing in rush hour traffic in "good" parts of the city.
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:05 pm to SamuelClemens
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Crazy, I was told by a poster here who claimed to be a doctor that the medical community was blameless in this crisis
That's insane. I remember a few years ago there were a bunch of doctors and pharmacists that got busted in Southern Alabama for selling a bunch of opioids on the side
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:25 pm to prince of fools
I'm just swinging by and wanted to say Hey-Ron.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:29 pm to BowlJackson
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But even still, most people would be shocked how many functioning heroin addicts there are. Not that you can be responsible with a heroin addiction, but if done relatively responsibly people can hide a heroin or opiate addiction for years without anybody but their dealers and peers they use with knowing. I know people who have even hidden it from significant others that they live with.
for over 10 years, that was me every day.... high as a kite, but you never would have known... i was fully functioning addict.... but a desperate, depraved addict nonetheless...
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:31 pm to lsuson
quote:wrong agency, bro
shut down by the FDA
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:37 pm to SamuelClemens
It's hair-rawn
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:41 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Patient's Oxy OD leads to murder arrest
A Calhoun woman is charged with second-degree murder following an investigation into a July death.
According to a warrant for Virginia M. Wharton, 35, the body of Justin Ewing, 38, a patient in the Glenwood hospital building was found lying on the floor of his hospital room with a syringe inserted in his IV port.
Sharon McClain, director of marketing for Glenwood, clarified that Ewing was a patient at Louisiana Extended Care Hospital, which is located on the third floor of the Glenwood campus but operates separately.
Ewing was the son of R. Stewart Ewing Jr., executive vice-president, chief financial officer and assistant secretary of CenturyLink.
Ewing was being treated for a MRSA staph infection, and the syringe found was not administered by hospital staff. Per the warrant, a saline flush syringe missing approximately two milliliters of fluid and two tablets labeled "224" were found in the room. The tablets were determined to be 30 mg Oxycodone tablets.
A Calhoun woman is charged with second-degree murder following an investigation into a July death.
According to a warrant for Virginia M. Wharton, 35, the body of Justin Ewing, 38, a patient in the Glenwood hospital building was found lying on the floor of his hospital room with a syringe inserted in his IV port.
Sharon McClain, director of marketing for Glenwood, clarified that Ewing was a patient at Louisiana Extended Care Hospital, which is located on the third floor of the Glenwood campus but operates separately.
Ewing was the son of R. Stewart Ewing Jr., executive vice-president, chief financial officer and assistant secretary of CenturyLink.
Ewing was being treated for a MRSA staph infection, and the syringe found was not administered by hospital staff. Per the warrant, a saline flush syringe missing approximately two milliliters of fluid and two tablets labeled "224" were found in the room. The tablets were determined to be 30 mg Oxycodone tablets.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:27 pm to chRxis
Yeah more than likely you know
Someone that's an addict or someone that's been effected by the disease of addiction. I was a bottom of the barrel junkie, raised in a good family had all the opportunities in the world but I started doing pain pills. That turned to heroin and it was a wrap. Can't begin to tell you how terrible my life was. I'm sober now and am in the process of opening up sober livings back in Louisiana. But it was a long tough road but much needed. Made me a better man.
Someone that's an addict or someone that's been effected by the disease of addiction. I was a bottom of the barrel junkie, raised in a good family had all the opportunities in the world but I started doing pain pills. That turned to heroin and it was a wrap. Can't begin to tell you how terrible my life was. I'm sober now and am in the process of opening up sober livings back in Louisiana. But it was a long tough road but much needed. Made me a better man.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:30 pm to SamuelClemens
And yes everyone is on it. The epedimic is the worst I've ever seen it. From working in the industry the past two years I personally know at least 100-200 people that have died. And lost close friends as well. It's not heroin anymore. It's fentanyl and it's killing people.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:44 pm to NikeShox
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I know people who have been on Saboxone for years and haven't touched an opiate in years. I don't really understand that. Substituting one for another I suppose.
Had a friend who went to a Psychiatrist who treats opiate addiction with Suboxone. I went to the appointment with her and he told her to prepare to possibly be on Suboxone for the rest of her life. I thought WTF?!!!
The appointment was $300 a month and $700 for the suboxone refills. Mind blowing.
Yep. shite is crazy. The doc told her she could be on it for life because it is pretty much just as hard to detox from suboxone as it is from other opiates
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:47 pm to baldona
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I have always called BS on blaming this on doctor's for over prescribing for pain. Its not the pain patients that are the ones getting addicted. Go look at any clinic, its young people that have traditional addictive personalities. They bought it or stole the meds from family and friends because they liked the high
We'll that's simply not true.
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I don't know a single person who has over taken Oxy for pain, I know a ton and ran into a ton in the restaurant industry that took it for fun.
You don't know 1 single person who has taken a percocet for pain? My younger brother got 20 percocets for his damn wisdom teeth
Percocet is oxycodone, same shite that is in OxyContin and roxys This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 10:49 pm to SamuelClemens
i always say oxy makes me itch so they give me vicodin instead 
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:37 pm to Upperdecker
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I know two people that have used heroine. One has been to rehab 10+ times. The other is dead
I would like to frick a female hero too!!!
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:11 pm to SamuelClemens
I thought this was a good article on how oxycontin basically sent people into a hellish existence, did not live up to it's 12 hour dosing. So the company hid this fact because of profit$$. It's a fairly interesting read.
Oxycontin's well known and well hidden problem.
Oxycontin's well known and well hidden problem.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:31 pm to lsuguy13
yeah, for a majority of those 12 years I was eating between 20 to 25 hydrocodone tabs a day... every day... this was before it became a schedule 2 narcotic... back when it was a 3, you could estimate or round your inventory of it... and with so many different forms of it, it was easy to skim off the top of each to avoid suspicion
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:32 pm to lsuguy13
yeah, for a majority of those 12 years I was eating between 20 to 25 hydrocodone tabs a day... every day... this was before it became a schedule 2 narcotic... back when it was a 3, you could estimate or round your inventory of it... and with so many different forms of it, it was easy to skim off the top of each to avoid suspicion
Posted on 9/9/17 at 1:29 pm to Jester
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False. I personally know 2 recovering heroin addicts. They both started with oxycodone prescribed for an acute back injury. Prescription elevated to oxycontin. Started using heroin when they couldn't get enough pills. Thankfully both are in a much better place now.
That's not what I was saying. Are people getting addicted to Oxy because of pain? Absolutely. But from what I've seen the real issue are the users that get addicted to it because it was an easy drug to get a hold of. Not only that, but I'd argue outside of weed it's the next least looked down upon drug. So people didn't feel bad about doing it.
When I and anytime I hear of someone getting their wisdom teeth out for example, I was asked by at least 15 people if I had extra pills to sell to them. Anytime someone has a minor surgery or medical procedure where they get them all the pill poppers what them. A vast majority of those are not for pain, it was for the high. They loved popping them while drinking or even not drinking.
Imo the pain people are very similar. A majority that get addicted, get addicted from the high not because they have to keep taking it for the pain. The addiction is another story certainly.
I also think it's very VERY easy for people to blame the pain on why they got addicted, and not blame themselves for enjoying the high and not wanting the high to stop.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 9/9/17 at 1:55 pm to biglego
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It takes a modicum of will power.
New data says otherwise. The area of the brain that encourages "will power" is effectively disengaged when using. I will link the info when I am done doing blow, following my keg stands of course.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:18 pm to jimmy the leg
i tore my ACL in high school and had to have an operation to fix it.
the worst operation I have ever had was getting my widsom teeth removed and they grew in crooked so they had to remove the two teeth next to them. man i would have killed someone if i didn't have vidcoin dont' fricking sit here and tell me that that was for the high i cried trying to eat apple sauce it hurt so bad.
No one tries herion. people resort to herion. every person i knokw who does herion was at one point petrified of it but after doing roxys for so long it's 1/3rd the price damn near and just as if not potent.
my ex had to have, like HAD to have 6 roxys a day at one point.. we eventually tapered that down to 4. that's 120 a day in roxy pills. not even to get high. just to be able to function and not go through withdrawls. that's taking one pill every 4 hours.
A gram of black tar runs you about 150-175 for the really good shite and a gram would last her if she wasn't sharing 3 days and she was actually getting high.
the worst operation I have ever had was getting my widsom teeth removed and they grew in crooked so they had to remove the two teeth next to them. man i would have killed someone if i didn't have vidcoin dont' fricking sit here and tell me that that was for the high i cried trying to eat apple sauce it hurt so bad.
No one tries herion. people resort to herion. every person i knokw who does herion was at one point petrified of it but after doing roxys for so long it's 1/3rd the price damn near and just as if not potent.
my ex had to have, like HAD to have 6 roxys a day at one point.. we eventually tapered that down to 4. that's 120 a day in roxy pills. not even to get high. just to be able to function and not go through withdrawls. that's taking one pill every 4 hours.
A gram of black tar runs you about 150-175 for the really good shite and a gram would last her if she wasn't sharing 3 days and she was actually getting high.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 2:25 pm to jimmy the leg
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New data says otherwise. The area of the brain that encourages "will power" is effectively disengaged when using. I will link the info when I am done doing blow, following my keg stands of course.
i think people make it black and whtie and it's really really gray.
my ex, had to have opiates. there was no will power to it she would start shaking / convolsing in her sleep if she didn't. that has jack shite to do with will power
stimulates are different. i never was and never will be an every day user, but when i had to straighten up and fly right, rather a job i'm working on is behind, i was in legal trouble or wahtever, I did and it wasn't really even allt hat hard to do so.
it's like something in my mind when i know i "can't" useand when i can't i don't even try or the thought doesn't cross my mind. when i'm at home with the misses aned my son that shite dosn't cross my mind. at all. when i was in drug court for 2 ande a half years i didn't use once and didn't even think about it. after 2 years they stopped drug testing me and i still didn't release.
but the night i got my record sealed, it's like something instantly clicked in my mind and said "let's party lol"
i ovboiusly know a lot of addicts. i remember about a year ago i was chilling with this chick and I was out of dope and it was time for me to get back to work / get some rest and I mean, after a 2 day run i'm ready to do something else lol. and she instantly started going through facebook trying to find someone else with dope to hang out with. And I mean, i'm not built like that. i don't get people like that. it's fun for a day or two but after that im 'ready to play monoploy or something. it's really only fun to me when i can do it 1-2 times max a month i dont' want the shite everyday.
one thing i think that has to do with it, when i use, or in general, i never do antyhing that makes me feel shameful. i don't neglect my kids, i don't not pay bills, i don't make stupid decisoins.. i think a lot of the issue with addicts, like the girl that i was talking about above, si that she was trying to block out some of the shite she was doing like fricking dudes for dope she didn't like or having her kids taken away from her or cheating on her husband and if she had to actually stop to think abou tit, it would hurt too bad so she just kept chasing the dope. i don't chase dope. but i don't do antyhing to make me want to chase dope either.
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