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159 years ago today: all hell broke loose along the banks of the Tennessee River...
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:15 pm
Near a small wooden church called Shiloh. It was here on the morning of April 6, 1862, that the 40,000 man Army of Mississippi - Albert Sidney Johnston commanding - attacked the Army of the Tennessee, an army of equal size, under the command of Ulysses S. Grant. Johnston's goal was to destroy Grant's army before it could be united with the Army of the Ohio under the command of Don Carlos Buell. A major battle developed as places such as the Sunken Road (or Hornet's Nest as the South called it) became immortalized due to the savage nature of the fighting. By the end of the day, thousands of men had been killed and wounded, the Union army had been pushed back to the river, and commanding general Johnston had been killed in action (the highest-ranking officer to die in the war).
Not willing to admit defeat, Grant resolved to counterattack the next day - April 7. This he did, pushing the Confederates now under P.G.T Beauregard back over the ground that had been fought over the day before, back into Mississippi. The butcher's bill for the Battle of Shiloh was staggering with nearly 24,000 men becoming casualties of war in the two-day action (more casualties than all previous American wars combined). The savagery of the battle shocked both sides and made many military commanders realize that the gloves had officially come off and that there was no longer any turning back.
Not willing to admit defeat, Grant resolved to counterattack the next day - April 7. This he did, pushing the Confederates now under P.G.T Beauregard back over the ground that had been fought over the day before, back into Mississippi. The butcher's bill for the Battle of Shiloh was staggering with nearly 24,000 men becoming casualties of war in the two-day action (more casualties than all previous American wars combined). The savagery of the battle shocked both sides and made many military commanders realize that the gloves had officially come off and that there was no longer any turning back.
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:31 pm to RollTide1987
My family visited the site when I was a kid.
That's all I got.
That's all I got.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:32 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Pittsburg Landing
Shiloh
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:38 pm to RollTide1987
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Tennessee River
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Well momma got sick and daddy got down
The county got the farm and they moved to town
Papa got a job with the TVA
He bought a washin' machine and then a Chevrolet
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:41 pm to Kafka
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Pittsburg Landing
I go by what the National Park Service calls it. Its official name is Shiloh National Military Park.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:43 pm to RollTide1987
It's amazing how much of the South was already under Federal control by late 1962. Grant controlled the Ohio and Tennessee River Valleys.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:44 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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My family visited the site when I was a kid.
really makes you think, doesn't it?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:48 pm to RollTide1987
Ruggles Battery has always impressed me. Being there in person and to look out at the field with the Hornets Nest beyond was fascinating.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:51 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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It's amazing how much of the South was already under Federal control by late 1962. Grant controlled the Ohio and Tennessee River Valleys.
That is why I laugh when people say the South had a chance to win the war. It was over after Shiloh.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:53 pm to GetCocky11
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That is why I laugh when people say the South had a chance to win the war. It was over after Shiloh.
It was over so fast. All that was left was for the rich plantation owners in Richmond to drag out the war for a few more years for their honor and get a lot more poor hicks killed in battle.
(As you can tell, I don't have many Romanticized notions of the South.)
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:55 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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drag out the war for a few more years for their honor and get a lot more poor hicks killed in battle.
(As you can tell, I don't have many Romanticized notions of the South.)
LBJ and Tricky Dick say hi
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:56 pm to GetCocky11
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That is why I laugh when people say the South had a chance to win the war. It was over after Shiloh.
They really never had a shot. It’s amazing that the army of northern Virginia was as successful as it was. Came crumbling down for sure being so far stretched and the western theatre for the south was a shite show and really hampered them
ETA: I believe one of my 3X great grandfathers fought at shiloh and my hometown (Columbus MS) housed and buried a lot of the casualties. My grandmother is buried near a lot of confederate and union soldiers actually
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:58 pm to RollTide1987
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Its official name is Shiloh National Military Park.
Cool Indian mounds in this park
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:00 pm to 777Tiger
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LBJ and Tricky Dick say hi
Among whites in the Vietnam War, the South is probably over-represented there as well. We do love the glory of dying in a rich man's war, don't we?
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:01 pm to GetCocky11
quote:I blame Lyndon Johnson
It's amazing how much of the South was already under Federal control by late 1962
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:01 pm to GetCocky11
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That is why I laugh when people say the South had a chance to win the war. It was over after Shiloh.
I disagree. While things looked grim for the South in the weeks and months after the battle, things took a turn when Robert E. Lee launched his counteroffensive against McClellan outside of Richmond, pushing that larger force back down the Virginia peninsula. Lee then turned his army north, defeated another army of equal size at Second Manassas, and then quickly invaded Maryland. At that same time, Confederate forces (without coordinating their movements with Lee) invaded Kentucky. September 1862 was a key moment in our nation's history because the future of the Republic swung in the balance. If Lee had won a major victory in his Maryland Campaign of 1862, the war could have turned out differently. Britain and France might have gotten involved. If that were to have happened it was anyone's guess as to what would happen next.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:02 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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We do love the glory of dying in a rich man's war, don't we?
how else are Dow, Monsanto, and other defense contractors going to try out their new toys? not to mention we have all this ordinance from WWII just sitting around gathering dust
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:08 pm to RollTide1987
Toward the night of the 6th, Sherman approached Grant and stated “Well, Grant, we’ve had the devil’s own day, haven’t we.”
To which Grant replied, “Yes”, “Lick ‘em tomorrow, though”.
Say what you want about him, he was a winner.
To which Grant replied, “Yes”, “Lick ‘em tomorrow, though”.
Say what you want about him, he was a winner.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:13 pm to RollTide1987
The south should have took DC at the beginning of the war when they could have. That may have drawn in foreign powers such as France or England which was the only real chance the South had.
Posted on 4/6/21 at 4:16 pm to Wolfhound45
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Say what you want about him, he was a winner.
Only because he had better equipment and many more soldiers. If given equal resources, Lee would've destroyed him.
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