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re: 12 y/o girl suicide via Facebook live

Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:55 am to
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14067 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:55 am to
Where's the video?
Posted by Bojangles
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2092 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:55 am to
Dude.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53465 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:57 am to
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Det. Kristen Hearn said the Polk County Police Department is obtaining search warrants for Davis's phone, Facebook account and a third social media site after unconfirmed rumors were reported the incident was recorded by the phone on a live streaming website.

She said she will seek the warrants on Tuesday to be able to get into the phone and confirm if the rumors are true.


Warrants required because she didn't have any friends on those services who could actually see it.










Too soon?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:59 am to
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She was crying she was sorry for all kinds of things. Sorry for being worthless and other things. Sad.


It's tragic that our society teaches children from birth that they are corrupted, guilty and tainted by "original sin". The negative effects that have flowed from bullshite religious teachings have done incredible damage to society and the mental, emotional and physical health of individual human beings. It we want to know who is at fault for this girl's suicide, look in the mirror collectively as a society and the warped things we prioritize as important in life.
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
4020 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:00 am to
You can search youtube. It is graphic and disturbing. Poor girl, sounds like she was screaming for help... history of being a cutter and second attempt at suicide, and said somewherr that her stepfather might have raped her. She did suffer from depression. It's sad
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 10:06 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:02 am to
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I've been to the DR twice in my life dealing with 'depression'.. as soon as I stopped feeling sorry for myself and motivated myself to make a positive change in my life, the depression magically went away. All I needed was a kick in the arse and a wake up call to stop feeling so god damn sorry for myself and do something about it


I think this is a huge key. Doing something, anything no matter how small which serves to empower yourself is a huge first step in taking control of your life back. When you start feeling sorry for yourself, you just dig a deeper and deeper emotional and mental hole.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143804 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:08 am to
According to Mr Hangover if the father raped her, it's her own fault and no excuse for having depression.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77205 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:09 am to
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People need to realize rejection isn't permanent. Sadness fades.


People need to realize everything external to you in life is impermanent. Everything comes and goes. Except your true self or higher self. The higher self is the space in which every action occurs in your life. You are simply an observer. Don't get pulled into the illusory drama. Be the watcher and observer of your thoughts, emotions and events that occur in your life and realize that none have the ability to hurt you in any way. The real you lives in a dimension beyond fear, death, etc. Therein lies peace.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7115 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:12 am to
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At 12, you are rolling down the levee, playing outside, having fun while being financially supported.


Maybe for you. Not everyone is so lucky.

To answer your questions, yes to both.

Preteens and even children can have clinical depression. But teenage angst, blues, sub clinical depression, whatever you want to call it is more common in teens.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47832 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:19 am to
Just wanted to hug that young girl.

Terrible & heart-wrenching to hear the sadness in her voice.

Prayers to that mother
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:21 am to
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Crazy to think people will start posting their deaths on facebook



On the plus side, maybe teenage attention whores will kill themselves on a Facebook Live stream rather than go shoot up a school.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7115 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:22 am to
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Be the watcher and observer of your thoughts, emotions and events that occur in your life and realize that none have the ability to hurt you in any way. The real you lives in a dimension beyond fear, death, etc. Therein lies peace.


Not that I disagree with your sentiment, but lol man. Have you been around teenagers? I doubt the Buddha was mature enough as teen for the level of reasoning, patience, and objectivity necessary for the mentality you've described.

Hell most adults can't do it.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:41 am to
You're a fricking idiot if that's what you inferred from my posts and if you think I find some sort of sick humor in a 12 year old killing themselves then I really don't know what to tell you
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 10:44 am
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
17048 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:43 am to
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Prayers to that mother


From what I read on Reddit, the girl put notes online (maybe Instagram) saying her mom was a pill head who never took care of them, cleaned the house, cooked, etc. She was 12 and had to care for her younger siblings. On top of that, her step father raped her and told her she was worthless and to hang herself. She recently had to face her stepfather again at Christmas which may have set off more emotions.

Poor, innocent child got fricked because her parents were the scum of the earth.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47832 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:59 am to
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Poor, innocent child got fricked because her parents were the scum of the earth.



If true, that's terrible

Kid wasn't equipped emotionally to handle so much negative and screw that mother & father.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:13 pm to
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but in MY experience, depression is usually a self inflicted wound

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if people knew how to control their thoughts and knew how to stop manifesting so much negativity, most of the cases of depression would be nonexistent
Didn't your 2nd statement just contradict your first? How can it be self inflicted if you're admitting people don't know how to control their thoughts?

quote:

've been to the DR twice in my life dealing with 'depression'.. as soon as I stopped feeling sorry for myself and motivated myself to make a positive change in my life, the depression magically went away. All I needed was a kick in the arse and a wake up call to stop feeling so god damn sorry for myself and do something about it


So I guess you can lump me in the category of people who believe that MOST cases of depression are just for attention or just a self pity party
You do realize that depression isn't the same for everyone, right?
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 12:15 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112857 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:16 pm to
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At 12, you are rolling down the levee, playing outside, having fun while being financially supported.
Maybe you are, but your experiences aren't the experiences of every 12 year old.

This girl said something about being raped by a dad or stepdad, right? You don't think that could F up and leave a 12 year old girl depressed?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38047 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:29 pm to
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gIt's tragic that our society teaches children from birth that they are corrupted, guilty and tainted by "original sin". The negative effects that have flowed from bull shite religious teachings have done incredible damage to society and the mental, emotional and physical health of individual human beins


dude STFU. You're trying so hard to sound philosophical and deep, but your post screams "intellectual dwarf". Do you know how many people are born and raised under religious tenants? How many are taught by their religion that they are
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corrupted, guilty and tainted by "original sin".
?

The problem isn't religion- its the adult's interpretation of religion and what they convey to the adolescent. Furthermore, if we
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as a society

were guilty as you say, there'd be many more suicidal kids. But there aren't. Thats because MOST kids are raised by decent parents under some form of religion. This secular horse shite of always blaming religionl is a fricking cop out for shitty people doing shitty things to other people. Thats not religious and its not part of any predominant religion in a first world country. Instead of spewing the liberal, pseudo intellectual line about organized religion, put the blame squarely where it lies- on the adults who abused and mistreated the kid. Not a belief system that does and has done far more good than harm in modern society.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Didn't your 2nd statement just contradict your first? How can it be self inflicted if you're admitting people don't know how to control their thou


I said that it was self inflicted because people don't know how to control it, and most of the time it's completely accidental.. they think about it so much that they convince themselves that they're depressed so they basically do it to themselves... now I know every situation is different and no two cases are the same but it's like they wait for a magic cure to rid them of the pain.. having a bad day, week, or month isn't the same as going through depression... maybe I worded my initial post wrong, sorry for the confusion



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You do realize that depression isn't the same for everyone, right?


I've said that multiple times in this thread..



And fwiw - I'm not even talking specifically about this girl or her situation
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15745 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:33 pm to
Getting an understanding of situations like this make you love everyone around you so much more
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 12:35 pm
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