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re: $100,000 income: No big deal anymore

Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:56 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:56 am to
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put in upgrades for things like windows and doors that may not actually pay off in the long run

common misconception among homeowners, what many consider to be upgrades are really just maintaining the property to a livable condition, and not necessarily anything that would enhance the value of the property

quote:

it's probably a wash if you don't plan to be there long term.

agree, it comes down to personal preference, I don't mind renting for maybe a short term, second place, but I've always preferred to own the place where I live
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:57 am to
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and people often conflate "middle class" and "middle class lifestyle"


Living in a $175k+ cookie cutter w/ a late model Tahoe and F150 is only "lower middle class" on the OT. People are incredibly out of touch with reality.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:57 am to
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a lot of tradies on the board


You've claimed to make 100k plus, you also have claimed you didn't work. Are you living on a trust fund?

Posted by jack6294
Greater Baton Rouge Area
Member since Jan 2007
4033 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:58 am to
$10 million is the $1 million

A million does free you up from anything
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:58 am to
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Living in a $175k+ cookie cutter w/ a late model Tahoe and F150 is only "lower middle class" on the OT. People are incredibly out of touch with reality.


Totally out of touch.
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8469 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:59 am to
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100k is good if you're single without kids or bad debt. I could live very comfortably on that except on the west coast


I live quite comfortably on not much more than that and I have a kid. I'm just middle class by Orange County standards but feel like I'm doing just fine. My point is $100k is sufficient income to raise a family on the West coast. It may not allow you to get a McMansion but it will allow you to live comfortably.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86736 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:59 am to
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People are incredibly out of touch with reality.



I assume most of the people making such comments are single guys in their early 20s or upper class older people

so yes, both cases these people would be completely out of touch with reality

Posted by jack6294
Greater Baton Rouge Area
Member since Jan 2007
4033 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:01 pm to
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But 100k can provide a very comfortable lifestyle for many many folks


Depends on what you call comfortable
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:02 pm to
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But 100k can provide a very comfortable lifestyle for many many folks


Depends on what you call comfortable


The overwhelming majority of the OT would find it comfortable
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86736 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:02 pm to
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Depends on what you call comfortable


safe home, not living pay check to pay check, reliable vehicles, enough in savings to pay for minor emergencies


Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Depends on what you call comfortable


How about better than 75-80% of American households? Is that comfortable?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:03 pm to
Tbf, when the OT talks about trades, they're usually referencing something very specific like a welder. They aren't talking about the new plumber that works for home 360.

But I do think people working with their hands, on average, make more than office workers
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:04 pm to
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live quite comfortably on not much more than that and I have a kid. I'm just middle class by Orange County standards but feel like I'm doing just fine. My point is $100k is sufficient income to raise a family on the West coast. It may not allow you to get a McMansion but it will allow you to live comfortably.


Yep, my city is one of the most expensive and 100k is still comfortable as long as you're not in a materialistic arms race with the neighbors
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69745 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:05 pm to
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I live in a very low cost of living city and would struggle


Then your cost of living is absurd.

In the not too distant past, my parents survived and did well on 40k a year with 3 teenage boys at home. We owned a house in a good part of town and had new-ish vehicles for my parents. We also took a week family vacation every summer.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69585 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:05 pm to
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$100k is sufficient income to raise a family on the West coast.


Sure, in an apartment.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:06 pm to
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you also have claimed you didn't work.


i have never claimed this

Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70138 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:06 pm to
Damn

Where the hell do you all live.

Although my house isn't huge, it's fully paid off, I can always move back in it after school and after requesting my renters to leave.

I also don't mind commuting 30-45 mins
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86736 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:06 pm to
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But I do think people working with their hands, on average, make more than office workers


this is probably true simply because labor jobs offer more overtime

but the ceiling on labor jobs are lower than office jobs, in general
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:07 pm to
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quote:
you also have claimed you didn't work.


i have never claimed this



Sure you did. You claim you only wok 20 hours or nothing. I'll review your post history
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:07 pm to
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You claim you only wok 20 hours or nothing


ya, this is true

a lot of my income is passive
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