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Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:56 pm to
How can you not say the oline was bad? We had injuries but they still let Brees get harassed all game
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:58 pm to
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How can you not say the oline was bad? We had injuries but they still let Brees get harassed all game


Did you even read my post(s) about this very topic? And if so did you understand them?

When we had to go straight up Oline (with 4th string tackle) vs Dline with them, we got handled. When we stuck to our game plan, they played fine.

I didn't say they didn't get out played, I only said they weren't "shite" as so many people proclaimed them to be today.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:00 pm to
okay Rusty, why did we lose?

forgive any of us who vented some frustration on this board..

jesus christ...

we didn't run the ball that well. don't try and tell me we did either. if we had run the ball as well as you try and make it out to be, we would have won probably. The D-line didn't get much pressure on the QB. I did think our defense played the run better than I thought they would. I thought the defense played pretty well considering how the actual scoring went down. Drew Brees isn't above criticism and his pick before the half was a back breaker. This loss fricking sucks and I'm right there with you in sharing the bitterness of defeat.

shite happens man. Despite the shitty calls and tough breaks in the game, I thought the team played hard.
This post was edited on 11/25/12 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:04 pm to
It sounds like you are just being overly defensive about the word usage that posters have been using. Yeah they may not have been "shite" but they did not play well. And yeah it may not all be on Brees but if you throw 2 pick 6's you have to shoulder some of the blame. That's just how it is.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:10 pm to
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okay Rusty, why did we lose?



because

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shite happens man.




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Despite the shitty calls and tough breaks in the game, I thought the team played hard.


Me too. It was a tough game, things didn't go our way, sometimes in horribly bad ways. It happens. The O Line is not shite, the Defense is not horrible (or at least they weren't tonight), this loss isn't solely Brees' fault, and he isn't "forcing" throws.

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his loss fricking sucks and I'm right there with you in sharing the bitterness of defeat.


and I don't even have a beer to drown my frustration in
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:11 pm to
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Yeah they may not have been "shite" but they did not play well. And yeah it may not all be on Brees but if you throw 2 pick 6's you have to shoulder some of the blame. That's just how it is.


Perfectly reasonable assessment. If this is your position, I'm right there with you, but that's not what a lot of people have been posting here.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:12 pm to
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jesus christ...


All right, LC.

The eye roll was a bit excessive, don't you think?
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:17 pm to
so I've had a couple hundred beers tonight...

but you're right.. no need for that bullshite

yeah, I'm mad that we lost
This post was edited on 11/25/12 at 11:20 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:21 pm to
Honestly:
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The O Line was shite!

It 100% no doubt absolutely was in the second half

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2. The Defense was pathetic!

anyone who said that is dumb as frick. They out played out offense today

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This one is on Brees! His hold out hurt the team. Brees is greedy!!!!

1st sentence true, next 2 sentences false.

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Brees is forcing the ball to X

Drew is a great quarter back. Future HOF, record breaking, superbowl MVP winning QB. But he does some fricking incredibly stupid arse shite sometimes. For instance: We take the lead with a minute to go in the half and he decides to try and squeeze one into triple coverage in the middle of the field for no reason at all. We had timeouts left, we had downs left, we had clock left. That was fricking stupid. Deal with it.

Every season Drew had one game where he literally throws the game away. This was that game. No one is happy about it, but it shouldnt be sugar coated. You can damn well believe Drew blames himself for this loss. And he will come out and assrape atlanta to make up for it.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:28 pm to
As for the O Line, I apparently have a difference in opinion with a lot of people here. I feel like they were put in an unwinnable position against a physically superior opponent in the second half. That's a byproduct of things which were beyond their control and they predictably failed. Don't think they "played like shite", but rather they were outplayed in a situation which they shouldn't have been in. Semantics I guess, but it gets old seeing people post dumb crap like that.

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We take the lead with a minute to go in the half and he decides to try and squeeze one into triple coverage in the middle of the field for no reason at all.


He definitely forced that throw. Totally his fault and yeah that was a frick up we didn't need.

The "forcing the ball to X" thing is referring to people who insist that Brees develops a pattern of throwing to one particular person. Passes complete? He's a genius. Passes deflected or dropped? Shell...
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 12:50 am to
It almost seems you are making excuses for the line. I don't get it. Obviously you don't want them to be in a position where you are down by 14, but it happens. You can't just let guys run past you in those situations. Nothing is perfect. You will get in holes, but damn, at least stop the other team somewhat. Keep in mind at the end of the first half the niners d started getting more pressure, so its not like they only started to play bad whenever the niners took the lead.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:02 am to
I don't recall the O line struggling at the end of the first half, but perhaps I am mistaken.

In my opinion the Saints were executing a well thought out game plan, and it was working, up until all hell broke loose, then someone made the decision to switch to the default "let Brees throw it" strategy, and no one played well once that happened because the 9ers defense is way to good to just 'wing it.

The end result was we got our asses kicked in the second half, but I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment that it was because the O Line was shite.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:16 am to
Eh. Just winging it worked last year on offense. This one, not so much
Posted by motorbreath
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 1:22 am to
Atlanta is so fricked next week. Brees will be as focused and on target as he's ever been. I haven't been over there lately, but I bet 10 bucks that there's a discussion on the falcons board talking about how the saints were "exposed" tonight.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 11/26/12 at 6:22 am to
He had no time because the Niners were able to pin their ears back and get at him because they knew we were passing

Why did they know we were passing?

Because we were in a two score deficit. Why were we in a two score deficit? Because we threw consecutive pick sixes.
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