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re: Why wouldn't the saints get Michael Vick?
Posted on 5/27/09 at 12:29 am to whodatfan
Posted on 5/27/09 at 12:29 am to whodatfan
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bush was injured most of the season
check. Perfect reason to bring Vick in.
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pierre only started 5 games,
check. Reason #2 to bring him in.
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Reggie was burning it up the first 1/3 of the season till he got injured
running the football? No. 3.7 YPC is burning it up?
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You know it, I know it, anyone with sense and common football knowledge knows it.
yeah, we've established this. Try and keep up.
in the wildcat he would take snaps *gasp* as a QB, in space, with the deception of a RB coming in motion for a possible handoff. What is not to love about that?
its still a fricking running play. It almost always gets positive yardage. It keeps the clock moving as well as the chains.
Who gives a frick what it looks like?
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you have been on here for the past week with the sole intent to squabble with the regulars on this board.
da frick? Im not squabbling with no one, i just cant help to make fun of some of the idiots on here. If they are "regulars", then so be it.
If you think im arguing in 3 different threads that Vick would be a great pick up to squabble with your dumb arse, then you are mistaken.
WHO DEYYYYYYYYYYY
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Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:10 am to whodatfan
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dude, you have been on here for the past week with the sole intent to squabble with the regulars on this board
being a "regular" on the saints board is like being a member of the 4X100 relay team in the special Olympics, with Midget due running the first leg and you running the final 100.
open you're eyes and quit playing like you work at the SPCA. the league is full of thugs worse than Vick. All dogs go to heaven.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:47 am to BayouLSUcajun
I gotta tell you I find it strange to discuss what team and what position michael vick should be playing. The question should be where will he go to get the intense prolonged psychotherapy that this individual truly needs. If anyone believes that what he did was just a faze or that he is not capable of doing the same thing to other living creatures(i.e. human beings) just look at the case studies of many of the mass murderers and serial killers. This goes way beyond giving a person a second chance. How about first trying to help cure whatever mental illness caused this. I've heard little or no remorse from him and suspect he is not a rehabilitated individual. No one is perfect but what he did was particularly gruesome.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 3:52 am to Lester Earl
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in the wildcat he would take snaps *gasp* as a QB, in space, with the deception of a RB coming in motion for a possible handoff. What is not to love about that?
Taking the ball out of Brees's hands, that's what i wouldn't love about that?
Posted on 5/27/09 at 8:38 am to Lester Earl
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Lester, Jaydeaux, Sophandros, Roaad, NIH, etc, etc...
dude, i get ya'lls point ok. problem is, bringing him in for that sole purpose is not worth:
a/ taking the ball out of brees hands at all
b/ taking in all the baggage that comes with him
c/ trying to fit a square peg in a round hole (he does not fit into what we do here offensively)
so, while I see your point of use for him, it just does not outweigh the risk involved. he'll play QB for somebody, just not the Saints. This is my last post on this subject. I've moved on. I'll read, but will not post.
This post was edited on 5/27/09 at 8:41 am
Posted on 5/27/09 at 10:46 am to shel311
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Taking the ball out of Brees's hands, that's what i wouldn't love about that?
they take the ball out of his hands every time they run the ball. So whats the difference if its Vick or Reggie Bush or Pierre Thomas?
Posted on 5/27/09 at 10:51 am to Lester Earl
Running the ball as a qb is not even comparable to running the ball as a running back.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 10:54 am to Lester Earl
quote:If the Saints were to sign a talented piece of shite for a human being could it at least be a defensive player. I think they've got enough offensive playmakers. I'd be willng to sign Ted Bundy if he could get to the QB on a regular basis.
they take the ball out of his hands every time they run the ball. So whats the difference if its Vick or Reggie Bush or Pierre Thomas?
Posted on 5/27/09 at 10:55 am to Lester Earl
I think the point he's trying to make is Brees should not be taken off the field non-injury related for any reason. That's all. 
Posted on 5/27/09 at 10:57 am to Chad504boy
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Running the ball as a qb is not even comparable to running the ball as a running back.
really?/??????
Posted on 5/27/09 at 10:59 am to whodatfan
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I think the point he's trying to make is Brees should not be taken off the field non-injury related for any reason. That's all.
why not?
what good does he do on a running play? he hands the balls off and watches the play.
thus taking the ball out of his hands
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:01 am to Lester Earl
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really?/??????
Yes.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:01 am to Lester Earl
yeah, perfect scenario on third and short with Vick because you don't know if he keeps it or hands off, so the defense is on it's heels so to speak.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:03 am to Lester Earl
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what good does he do on a running play? he hands the balls off and watches the play
Checks Def...can audible out...can adjust O-line's blocking scheme...put guys in motion to better allow for the run...promotes the possibility of passing play....thats all I can think of.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:03 am to Lester Earl
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Running the ball as a qb is not even comparable to running the ball as a running back.
really?/??????
Vicks yards were mostly scrambles on passing plays. Diffrent blocking schemes, DB's have their backs turned and the field is spread. DE's are rushing up the field and are pretty much out of the play for the QB where the RB has to run around or past them, LB'ers either rushing or dropping, not running to the hole and the secondary has their backs turned running in coverage down field instead of safties filling the wholes and CB's being 20 yards of the LOS instead of 2 or 3 yards.
I'd rather have Brees at QB all the time then bring Vick in for 3 or 4 plays at QB.
As a running back, I'm the least sold on PT and Bush is not that good of a running back. However Vick at RB is a completely unknown.
He WAS a hell of an athlete with a strong arm, but was never that great of a quarterback. Who knows what he could do at RB. (No one on this board is the correct answer.)
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:06 am to Suntiger
still Vick as a backup is better than anything the Saints have right now.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:07 am to Suntiger
How about we just draft Tim Tebow instead of getting mike vick. That way, we can have the magical appearance of every play, Tim Tebow could do his back up petal step and launch the ball 15 yards down the field to Billy Miller.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:08 am to tubucoco
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still Vick as a backup is better than anything the Saints have right now.
Maybe I am in the minority, but I feel this is false.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:13 am to SaintEB
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Checks Def...can audible out...can adjust O-line's blocking scheme...put guys in motion to better allow for the run...promotes the possibility of passing play....thats all I can think of.
I'm talking after the ball is handed off. It becomes a running play. Most times in a running situation, you arent going to change to a pass.
but anyway....
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can adjust O-line's blocking scheme
put guys in motion to better allow for the run.
doesn't happen much at the line of scrimmage. Rare. Prob doesn't even happen in some games. This is usually always designed within the play beforehand.
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promotes the possibility of passing play..
Vick has the opposite affect. In a running formation, with the option to pass the ball is much more lethal that teams thinking Brees "may" pass the ball when he is back there. Because more than likely that is what he is doing.
its much harder to adjust to a pass then a running play.
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can audible out
sure, so could Vick.
"hey, the Def is stacked to the right, lets run left". Not that hard.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 11:15 am to SaintEB
I wouldn't say your in the minority because of the people that hate Vick, but less be reasonable Harrington or Brunell doesn't compare to Vick, and a offensive mind like Paytons would hyperventilate because of the new wrinkles he could put in his offense with Vick.
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