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Why is Jo-Lonn Dunbar not being given a chance to start at Sam?

Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:06 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:06 am
Vilma, Casillas, and Dunbar could very well be our top 3 LB's on the roster. I know Dunbar is filling a valuable role on team as backup middle but frick, everyone else is getting the opportunity to start at sam, dunbar seems like he was ruled out early.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
20986 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:08 am to
we need speed at the SAM, which Dunbar does not have. He did line up at MLB on friday and looked ok though.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:13 am to
possibly, didn't know he lacked that much comparative speed compared to Shanle. I know Ingram is pretty athletic if healthy, Herring might be a balanced good mix of skills.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
20986 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:22 am to
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Herring might be a balanced good mix of skills.


yeah all signs point to Herring being a quality LB, as good or better than Shanle. I'm counting on Casillas to be huge this year along with Tez Wilson late into the season.

I mean, did you see Tez friday night? He's built like a brick shithouse. the wing span on the dude is insane.
Posted by thedice20
Member since May 1926
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Herring being a quality LB, as good or better than Shanle


he looked suprisingly athletic.
Speedy guy. Looks to have some range.
Excited to see some depth at our LBer positions
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:29 am to
quote:

looked suprisingly athletic.


he's white so its a surprise?
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
20986 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:31 am to
quote:

he's white so its a surprise?




if its refering to the gridiron, then yes.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116201 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:45 am to
quote:

he looked suprisingly athletic.
Speedy guy. Looks to have some range.
Excited to see some depth at our LBer positions


Well, he's a converted Safety that excels in coverage, specifically drop zone, so I'd be pretty surprised if he wasn't athletic. I would be more concerned with his physicality vs the run. He looked fine to me.
Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 10:48 am to
quote:

he's a converted Safety


Exactly
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61565 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 11:12 am to
quote:

didn't know he lacked that much comparative speed compared to Shanle.



Scott Shanle 4.72
Jo-Lonn Dunbar 4.85
LINK
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 11:25 am to
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Scott Shanle 4.72
Jo-Lonn Dunbar 4.85
LINK


I question where that site gets its #'s from.

They've got Jenkins 40 time listed at a flat 4.40 which he didn't even do at OSU's fast track

Also, if those #'s come from combine/prodays then I'm willing bet good money that 32 year old Scott Shanle is shade slower than 22 year old Scott Shanle that ran the 4.72
Posted by ozymandias104
United States
Member since Mar 2009
272 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 11:44 am to
The reason is because Dunbar's natural position is the Mike and since Marvin M. is gone they need a backup for Vilma which is Dunbar who fits in better at Mike.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61565 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:03 pm to
quote:


I question where that site gets its #'s from.


The time looks right for Dunbar LINK and even though Shanle has probably lost a step, Dunbar's 4.85 is still slow by OLB standards.
This post was edited on 8/15/11 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32984 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 12:11 pm to
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didn't know he lacked that much comparative speed compared to Shanle.


It seems like he has good speed on special teams, but he seems slow when he plays on defense. Not sure if he hesitates or if he just doesn't have the speed. Either way, I think MLB might be his better position in the NFL.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 2:24 pm to
He was a undersized MLB (similar to Vilma) coming out of college. I think they like him more than Marvin Mitchell so he's now the #2 MLB. I think last year was his real opportunity to make it at either side OLB. He started at SLB until early Dec. when he went IR with a hammy. He obviously didn't impress enough as evidenced by bringing in so many other LBs.

reviewing his college scouting report-

Undersized but feisty middle linebacker who was the leader of a very good Boston College defense this past season, who was was named a team captain when only a junior and a first-time starter, indicating how much his teammates thought of the defender.

As a senior, Dunbar was a major part of a unit which led the country at stopping the run for most of last year’s campaign. His stature, at 6 feet even and 231 pounds, belies the toughness with which he approaches the game. It should be noted that some of his size limitations were hidden due to the fact the Golden Eagles had monstrous run stuffers protecting their middle linebacker over the past two seasons.

During his career at Boston College, Dunbar's production outmatched potential with 269 total tackles in 25 career starts. Injuries were an issue, as he was never able to complete an entire season as a starter. For example, an ankle injury hampered his play for a stretch of his senior campaign.

Athletically, Dunbar does not automatically jump off the screen. His overall speed and agility are average, posting forty yard dash times in the high 4.8’s, as well as a 4.45 short shuttle and 7.05 three cone drill. Dunbar numbers might not leap off the page, nor is he the most physically talented player on the field at any given time, but he is a natural athlete - this is a linebacker who was recruited as a running back.

Dunbar could be a special player: a linebacker which displayed a nose for the ball leading to four touchdowns throughout his defensive career, a playmaker who relied on his instincts, attitude, and guts to get the job done.

Good enough for NFL teams to give him a look at a late round prospect.

Posted by ColeLSU
Member since Jul 2008
5856 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 2:43 pm to
How many LBer's are they gonna keep on active roster?? Anybody know? I would think at least 6....
So any guess who gets left out?
Vilma, Dunbar, Herring, Shanle, Casillas, Wilson, Bussey, & Ingram.....
Posted by huckiewin
Ft Myers Fl.
Member since Mar 2005
1131 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:17 pm to
i agree he will help fill in and he is aggressive
Posted by Auron
Member since Apr 2011
466 posts
Posted on 8/15/11 at 3:34 pm to
I've said it before. Herring is a Scott Fujita type player, only more skilled.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
6043 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:02 am to
Because he was given several opportunities to start. He is not agile enough, and cannot cover. He also blows his assignments. The staff has stated that he will be better served at his more natural position in the middle.
Posted by papz
Austin, TX
Member since Jul 2008
9330 posts
Posted on 8/16/11 at 8:15 am to
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Because he was given several opportunities to start. He is not agile enough, and cannot cover. He also blows his assignments. The staff has stated that he will be better served at his more natural position in the middle


Pretty much sums it up. Definitely an upgrade over Mitchell in the middle.
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