re: Why Does it Matter if Will Smith Went to a Strip Club?

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I would think a guy as focused on justice as you are would have at least brought this issue up.

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brought up what we was doing before, when no one knows what he was doing before? how does that make sense to you?

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You didn't need any media reports to suggest Smith was stalking Hayes, brandished a gun, and was intoxicated so you clearly have info that the rest of us don't have.

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I said Smith was stalking Hayes? Please link that directly. You're arguments are getting quite desperate.

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brandished a gun,

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we know from eye witness account that Will Smith made mention of a gun. I dont know any details surrounding him actually ever having a gun in his hand, and neither does anyone else.

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and was intoxicated so you clearly have info that the rest of us don't have.

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deductive reasoning says Will Smith was indeed impaired on this night. His lawyer and the manager at Sake have already incriminated him on this.

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Since you know Hayes personally, why don't you spill it?

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i tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but good god you are stupid if you believe this

First off, never claimed Will Smith was "shitfaced". 2ndly, Look how far you are off topic, centering all your anger towards me.

Im not sure your jimmies couldn't be any more rustled at this point.

You are the only idiot who didnt think I was joking when i said that because you were the only idiot to believe the guy who said I was related to him.

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I just think it's a little odd how some saints fans are so fast to baselessly drag a murdered mans reputation through the toilet, yet the gunman doesn't get the same scrutiny.

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so you are saying because the police are trying to piece together what Will Smith did before he was murdered, this is equates to "baselessly dragging his reputation through the mud"?


On the other hand, do you not think they are getting Hayes' story on what he did previously to this homicide?


Not sure what your angle is here, but you've clearly gone off the deep end.

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The police?

I don't see the police doing this at all. I see Fuller doing it.

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if the police arent trying to find out what hayes was doing then they are not doing their job.

remember, fuller had to tell us about the hit and run and that there was another weapon on the scene, so its possible that the investigators just arent leaking any info. have the police even acknowledged that there was a hit and run yet?

Fuller didn't have to tell us anything. The witness video about the second gun was out before Fuller ever spoke and the H&R video was out the same day. Just because the police aren't feeding you the pro-Hayes sound bytes you crave doesn't mean they aren't doing their jobs.

I'm sure they are interested in these things like strip clubs and whether or not Will had that second glass of Pinot at Sake, but within the framework of this case, they mean almost nothing.

Lester dives into this stuff as If Smith is shown to be a big enough a-hole, somehow Hayes was justified. The only thing that matters is what happened after the 2nd collision. The only way Hayes has a self defense claim is if he was convinced Smith was going to kill him first. Keep in mind that for everything Fuller has said (and he's said a lot of shite about Smith and the NOPD that he can't take back), he has not said that his client intends to plead self defense.

Why do you think that is?

Lol.

Why do you think Fuller has not stated his client's innocence?

Don't you think it's odd he would ask for stripper film in the middle of the man's funeral, but he hadn't once said "my client was acting in self defense"? Odd right? Why?

Months? Hell Fuller is trying the case right now in the media.

On what grounds is he innocent, Lester?

Think of it this way. If Your client tells you that "Smith pulled a gun and I defended myself", wouldn't you mention that, like, the first day? Instead of all of this strip club and police conspiracy nonsense. You really think he's saving it for later? This isn't Cameron's secret playbook.

I have several friends who are defense attorneys in the city and they all agree.... It isn't because Hayes is innocent.

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There is no incentive to mention anything right now. Same reason NOPD is selectively releasing evidence. It's truly not that hard to understand,

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Really? His client's innocence and reputation is not an incentive?

When this is over, you will see that Fuller hasn't held anything back. He has thrown everything out there but the kitchen sink.