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re: Whats the fanbases hate for Joe Horn?

Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:32 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:32 am to
i have joe horn only behind michael thomas.

are you arguing longevity?

or are you arguing prime horn and prime thomas who's "better"? These arguments are kind of silly anyways when we are arguing about different style receivers.
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:33 am to
Easily the best of this teams history.


Imagine him with a prime Drew Brees lets stop skipping that part.


A washed up him had 679 on 61 targets. With Brees.
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:33 am to
Im arguing Aaron Brooks vs Drew Brees


Absolutely 0 comparison


55% completion percentage (less opportunity)

Vs Brees and his 68%+ completion percentage. (More opportunity)
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 10:35 am
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:36 am to
Maybe some hate when he went to the Falcons, although many understood it, but I don't really see any hate for him since his time there.
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:39 am to
I understand nostalgia has a lot of you by the nuts but to act like this mans numbers weren’t godly in his situation.

And say guys who played with a hof qb are better to the point Its not even debatable . Is ridiculous.

Dude didn’t get started until 28 years old too. 4x pro bowler.. but it’s everyone but colstons fault he never made one lol.



Troubled players get 2nd and 3rd chances but again somehow the great Michael Thomas cant
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 10:43 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:42 am to
you're kind of fricking retarded if you can't argue and understand all dynamics of given answers.

It sure doesn't seem like you're arguing drew vs brooks.
michael thomas was a 2x All Pro. joe horn was not.

Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:43 am to
With a hof qb wtf are you missing


No HOF qb 2 years unemployed a flash in the pan


You do know getting stats on a 12-13 win team vs an 7-8 win team helps with that too?

A qb completing 55% VS 71% also helps with that.



Post those Breesless Thomas stats ? 171 yards- 400 yards- 2 years unemployed… but oh so great
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 10:47 am
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:47 am to
I think this thread shows how unbelievably ignorant you are. We already knew you have low football IQ but you just aren’t a very bright person.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:48 am to
I always liked Joe Horn, but liked Eric Martin better.
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:48 am to
You still resort to name calling and ive proved you wrong multiple times

Im low Iq?


Yet you use all these hypotheticals and still haven’t put Joe horn with a Hof qb in them ?



Here you go again 679 yards on 61 targets with that hof qb!! Low Iq yet you’re the one without a lick of common sense?

This proves he’d be even better with Brees just like I said.. prove that incorrect.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 10:51 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:52 am to
What could have beens can't always trump what actually was.

Michael Thomas was a 2x All Pro and NFL OPOY. Set NFL records in his first 4 years of career.

Nobody is really arguing against the idea that Drew makes people better.
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
784 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:55 am to
Ok so my point is proven.

Horn played with lesser and was better.


I even have proof he was good in the one year with Brees. Coaching beef/hamstring issues and did that.


Second in the NFL in yards in 2004. So again if he played on a 13 win team no doubt he gets 1st or 2nd team all pro.

How many guys I need to post Brees made better for comparison??

David Patton is always my go to





Better numbers than hines ward who was all pro because he played on a winning team.


A huge factor even though we’re pretending its not
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 10:58 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Ok so my point is proven.


no. you have no proof of anything.

horn being better with drew does not mean he's more deserving to be better than Michael Thomas prime vs prime. They aren't even the same type WR so the entire point is kind of stupid.
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:58 am to
Aaron Brooks overall was a horrible qb. With that being said he ranked in the top 10 and even as high as top 4 in passing yards. Whatever bone you think you have, you don’t. You keep saying you’re right but nobody else is.
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
784 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 10:59 am to
He had better stats with Aaron Brooks dude again wtf are you missing???


We had a sample size that proves those Brooks numbers would have been even better with Brees.

So again wtf are you missing?


Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
784 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:01 am to
Its more stats than yards buddy talk about that 55% completion percentage…


Common sense that doesn’t kick in for you …Let me help you..

One qb completing 71% =more opportunities

One qb completing 57% or less= less opportunities



And then we don’t even have to get into the fact Brees’ passes are more on target by a wide margin.




So lets stop here you don’t think those 1200-1300 yard seasons aren’t better with Drew Brees?
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 11:02 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:02 am to
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He had better stats with Aaron Brooks dude again wtf are you missing???


i guess i'm missing the fact that you're saying horn had better stats but yet michael thomas had a 4 year run that is top 6 in NFL ever.
Posted by Marrero
Member since Dec 2021
784 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:03 am to
And unemployed? Without that hof qb?




Thomas only had 1 year that was clearly better … this is exactly what Im talking about your talking like its not even close..

Have you seen Horns stats? And yes Horns 4 pro bowl seasons against Thomas’ 4 1k years. Are about even
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 11:06 am
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
2208 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:05 am to
You can’t argue with retards man.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73869 posts
Posted on 8/13/25 at 11:05 am to
quote:

even have proof he was good in the one year with Brees. Coaching beef/hamstring issues and did that.


You didn’t even know he played with Brees til someone told you How are we supposed to take you seriously
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