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The staple of the Saints offense was..

Posted on 10/2/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted by Gtothemoney
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 2:22 pm
Reggie/Sproles/Kamara out of the backfield getting matched up with a LB. Drew would get the ball to them in space and exploit the mismatch. Carmichael was there their entire time and saw how effective this was. Yet, that phase of the offensive scheme is nonexistent.

WHY??
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 2:24 pm to
we threw to Kamara 13 times. It didn't work.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 2:28 pm to
The Payton scheme is outdated somewhat. The league isn't the same as 2008 anymore and defenses are structured much better in those coverages. We can't just spam RB choice routes all game anymore.
Posted by 3HourTour
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

we threw to Kamara 13 times. It didn't work.


Mostly swing passes to the outside. I believe the OP is talking about how we used to get backs iso’d on a backer on option routes, wheel routes. shite was lethal. We don’t do that anymore.
Posted by TheChiefHasArrived
Member since Dec 2011
740 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 2:30 pm to
While we forced 13 passes to Kamara, almost all of them were behind the line of scrimmage. Get him to run 5 yard routes and/or out of the slot.
Posted by PaddyTwpPointOh
Member since Sep 2023
409 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 2:33 pm to
Kamara was used as a check down while the rest of the team all ran go routes.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14485 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 2:35 pm to
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Carmichael was there their entire time and saw how effective this was.

Carmichael lacks situational awareness.
Posted by Gtothemoney
Da North Shore
Member since Sep 2012
17722 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

we threw to Kamara 13 times. It didn't work.



Not talking about the bailout catches. I’m talking about getting the RB matched up with a LB and give the RB an option.
The screens have not been there either.

Posted by PaddyTwpPointOh
Member since Sep 2023
409 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 3:17 pm to
The simple answer is Carmichael isn't Payton. He probably uses crayons to draw up plays.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8813 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:05 pm to
The big difference is Drew got the ball to our RBs in stride at the exact right time to exploit the defense. Care is just using it as a check down to get rid of the ball not really trying to gain many yards.
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

WHY??


Because we don't have the OLine we once had, and we don't have the QB we once had.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63685 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

Reggie/Sproles/Kamara out of the backfield getting matched up with a LB. Drew would get the ball to them in space and exploit the mismatch. Carmichael was there their entire time and saw how effective this was. Yet, that phase of the offensive scheme is nonexistent


Well we definitely aren’t doing what you described above. We are dumping the ball off to Kamara with defenders in zone waiting for him.
Posted by fifthdeadlyvenom
Member since Nov 2016
1354 posts
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:45 pm to
There was a formation in the Titans game where Carr was in the shotgun and Jamal Williams and Olave were lined up on either side of him and both went out for routes. It was an actual inventive play that gave Olave a running start into a choice route and could have been even more dangerous with an explosive back running a wheel route instead of mediocre Williams.

Didn't see it called with Miller against Green Bay.

Didn't see it called with Kamara against Tampa.

Looked like Pete's big wrinkle this week was to take Carr out after every down where he actually completed a pass (thereby fricking up any kind of rhythm he could have gotten into) to put in Taysom so he could scramble around and wait for another long developing route to hopefully open up. Oh, and also run a bunch of sweeps and outside toss run plays against 2 of the fastest LBs in the NFL.
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