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The saints will never make the playoffs again under Sean Payton.

Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Tigerfan53
Death Valley
Member since Nov 2010
3105 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:28 pm
Bookmark this. He doesn't understand offensive balance and what a running game does to help to win the game.
Posted by swagsurfin7
Founder of the Alex Morgan Fan Club
Member since Dec 2009
6992 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:32 pm to
We committed to the run early. Hard to stick with it down a few scores with time not on your side.
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:33 pm to
I've learned very little in my lifetime except "never say never".
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1366 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:38 pm to
Mark Ingram makes me wanna quit. Hightower, nice runs
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90447 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:41 pm to
frick you.


bookmark that
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23491 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

what a running game does to help to win the game.

today it helped in losing it.... ingrate's fumble was the ultimate nail in the coffin
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:46 pm to
Yes, they have trouble running the ball and that's mainly due to offensive line issues with run blocking and that's been a problem for a while, but it's hard to run the ball when you're playing catch up in every single game you play. So, I would attribute most of the problems with this team over the past few seasons to the defensive side of the ball. Look back to the 2009 season, the defense wasn't particularly good as far as yardage totals and such go but they created a shite load of turnovers for a high powered offense to just wreck shite on teams.

When your offense has to be lights out every single game of the season to win, then you're not going to be very successful. That falls back on the Head Coach as well as Loomis for not being able to put together a competent group of players on the defensive side of the ball. The Saints have always been an oddity to me when it comes to salary cap because they've really lacked that star quality player other than Drew since Peyton has been there, yet they always seem to be in cap trouble. They have a serious talent evaluation problem on the defensive side of the ball, and this leads them to attempt to fix it through free agency and that's a recipe for disaster, always has been and always will be.

I still think Sean Peyton is a good coach and I don't think he should be going anywhere. I do think we need a new GM who can build better rosters. If Peyton is the one calling who we draft and such then he needs to just coach and let someone else make those decisions on the defensive side of the ball.

This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 9:49 pm
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1366 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:49 pm to
2009 ran the ball real well.
Posted by Bad Medicine
Member since Aug 2014
3575 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:49 pm to
I agree with this
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1366 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:50 pm to
Saints were 6th in the NFL in rushing 2009


Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

2009 ran the ball real well.


I never said they didn't. That was my point, they were rarely even behind in games that year so they didn't have to rely just on the pass all the time. The 2009 O-line was outstanding as well.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16649 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 9:56 pm to
2009-2011 are the greatest Saints teams ever assembled.

I may take flack, but I miss Greg William's defense and aggression. That defense gave up yards, but it created turnovers and put pressure on the quarterback.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81376 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:16 pm to
With any luck hell be gone nect year
Posted by death valley driver
CHOPPA CITY
Member since Jul 2004
11593 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

With any luck hell be gone nect year



"Matt Ryan about to serve up another 4th Q win. Horrible post bro"



DRIVEMAN OUT
Posted by Let Me Take A Selfie
Member since Aug 2014
2622 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:39 pm to
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That defense gave up yards, but it created turnovers and put pressure on the quarterback.




He was here for 3 years. What you're describing only happened in 1

Bountygate set this franchise back more than anything else
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
3143 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:54 pm to
Saints are gonna make playoffs this year. The division is trash and they will come out on top.
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4067 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:02 am to
We always commit to it the first 2 drives lol.
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:26 am to
Who going to make that call for a new coach? Loomis?

You got an old borderline senile man in Benson. You have an inept FO. Who is going to make the decisions?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65533 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 12:53 am to
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Who going to make that call for a new coach? Loomis? You got an old borderline senile man in Benson. You have an inept FO.
Who is going to make the decisions?
This.

The only given at this point is that Loomis' job is safe with the Benson family unless he gets caught in bed with the proverbial dead woman or live boy. No one in the Benson camp wants to have to get to learn new names and/or forge new relationships at this point. And if Loomis is safe, Payton is safe.

And we Saints fans are screwed.

And Brees' wonderful talent is wasted as his window closes.
Posted by MrWillie
ULM
Member since Nov 2013
574 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 1:13 am to
Don't know if I agree 100% with that statement BUT it's time for Payton (and Loomis) to move on.
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