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Taysom Hill Turning Heads
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:42 am
Taysom Hill’s performance at organized team activities might have been one of the more anticipated events of the offseason.
The Saints were able to see the quarterback play some last year during practices, but those moments came on Wednesdays when he was running the scout team. But the plays he was running were foreign to him. He’d look at a card, attempt to run the play, and then go back and repeat the process. Nothing about it was natural. It wasn’t the stuff he was learning in meeting rooms; he was acting as someone else.
The coaching staff was able to see some of his tools, like how he throws the ball, moves around the pocket and runs, but it is hard to get an honest evaluation without seeing a quarterback run his own team’s plays.
“There were a few days where I’d get to run the scout team, but I was joking around with a few guys that this is the first opportunity I’ve had to take a rep at quarterback in the New Orleans Saints’ offense,” Hill said. “The last three days have been a ton of fun.”
The past three days have been encouraging for Hill. He became a curiosity last season when Troy Aikman and Joe Buck said during a Fox broadcast that the Saints believe Hill is the quarterback of the future, comments coach Sean Payton later said were overblown and taken out of context.
But it's clear the Saints think Hill has promise, and that has started to show up early this week. Hill has made many plays, including on Thursday when he hit wide receiver Eldridge Massington on a deep pass down the right sideline. He later showed off his athleticism when he escaped a blitz and took off for a long gain.
These were the same traits New Orleans saw on tape when they noticed Hill last year while scouting Green Bay wide receiver Max McCaffrey. The Saints liked Hill so much they claimed him off waivers and kept him on the 53-man roster throughout the season, at times using him on special teams.
“He looks good,” Payton said Thursday. “We like where he is at. He is grinding and working hard. You guys saw (him make) a play today. When he does get outside the pocket, he can run, real fast. That presents a new challenge for the defense.”
There is still a long way to go. Hill has three practices under his belt. He still needs to beat out Tom Savage and J.T. Barrett for the backup job behind Drew Brees, which is not a guarantee. But the Saints do believe Hill has the traits to be a good quarterback.
He’s commanded the huddle well this week and is starting to prove that he’s comfortable with all the terminology and other things he picked up in the classroom last season.
He’s already done some extraordinary things this week. Quarterbacks coach Joe Lombardi mentioned Hill has gotten out of the pocket and made difficult throws across his body. If Hill continues to develop, his ability on the move could be something that differentiates him and provides him with a skill to lean on.
“Every great quarterback has to have a way of making a play when the play call isn’t perfect,” Lombardi said. “Someone’s not open right away, or the pressure gets to you, and you have certain guys like Tom Brady or Drew, they do it by finding these creative throws or getting the ball out so quick and having that sixth sense of where to go with the ball. Other guys get away from the rush, and they get outside the pocket, and they create.
“You see Aaron Rodgers and those kind of guys make plays that way. Just the ability to avoid the rush. The guy runs a sub-4.5 40, and he’s strong — he might be the strongest guy on the team.”
The strongest guy on the team? Seriously?
“Certainly pound for pound. He might be the strongest squatter,” Lombardi said. “The guy is a freak athlete. I’ve never seen anyone like him at this position.”
That sounds like a big statement, but it’s fairly obvious when you think about it. How many quarterbacks can make plays on special teams? Hill has rare traits for the position. The question is whether he can develop everything else and run the offense.
While he's off to a good start, the answer is still far off. Hill’s only really been on the job for three days.
The Saints were able to see the quarterback play some last year during practices, but those moments came on Wednesdays when he was running the scout team. But the plays he was running were foreign to him. He’d look at a card, attempt to run the play, and then go back and repeat the process. Nothing about it was natural. It wasn’t the stuff he was learning in meeting rooms; he was acting as someone else.
The coaching staff was able to see some of his tools, like how he throws the ball, moves around the pocket and runs, but it is hard to get an honest evaluation without seeing a quarterback run his own team’s plays.
“There were a few days where I’d get to run the scout team, but I was joking around with a few guys that this is the first opportunity I’ve had to take a rep at quarterback in the New Orleans Saints’ offense,” Hill said. “The last three days have been a ton of fun.”
The past three days have been encouraging for Hill. He became a curiosity last season when Troy Aikman and Joe Buck said during a Fox broadcast that the Saints believe Hill is the quarterback of the future, comments coach Sean Payton later said were overblown and taken out of context.
But it's clear the Saints think Hill has promise, and that has started to show up early this week. Hill has made many plays, including on Thursday when he hit wide receiver Eldridge Massington on a deep pass down the right sideline. He later showed off his athleticism when he escaped a blitz and took off for a long gain.
These were the same traits New Orleans saw on tape when they noticed Hill last year while scouting Green Bay wide receiver Max McCaffrey. The Saints liked Hill so much they claimed him off waivers and kept him on the 53-man roster throughout the season, at times using him on special teams.
“He looks good,” Payton said Thursday. “We like where he is at. He is grinding and working hard. You guys saw (him make) a play today. When he does get outside the pocket, he can run, real fast. That presents a new challenge for the defense.”
There is still a long way to go. Hill has three practices under his belt. He still needs to beat out Tom Savage and J.T. Barrett for the backup job behind Drew Brees, which is not a guarantee. But the Saints do believe Hill has the traits to be a good quarterback.
He’s commanded the huddle well this week and is starting to prove that he’s comfortable with all the terminology and other things he picked up in the classroom last season.
He’s already done some extraordinary things this week. Quarterbacks coach Joe Lombardi mentioned Hill has gotten out of the pocket and made difficult throws across his body. If Hill continues to develop, his ability on the move could be something that differentiates him and provides him with a skill to lean on.
“Every great quarterback has to have a way of making a play when the play call isn’t perfect,” Lombardi said. “Someone’s not open right away, or the pressure gets to you, and you have certain guys like Tom Brady or Drew, they do it by finding these creative throws or getting the ball out so quick and having that sixth sense of where to go with the ball. Other guys get away from the rush, and they get outside the pocket, and they create.
“You see Aaron Rodgers and those kind of guys make plays that way. Just the ability to avoid the rush. The guy runs a sub-4.5 40, and he’s strong — he might be the strongest guy on the team.”
The strongest guy on the team? Seriously?
“Certainly pound for pound. He might be the strongest squatter,” Lombardi said. “The guy is a freak athlete. I’ve never seen anyone like him at this position.”
That sounds like a big statement, but it’s fairly obvious when you think about it. How many quarterbacks can make plays on special teams? Hill has rare traits for the position. The question is whether he can develop everything else and run the offense.
While he's off to a good start, the answer is still far off. Hill’s only really been on the job for three days.
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/25/18 at 10:48 am to arcsaints42
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:03 am to arcsaints42
quote:
. The guy runs a sub-4.5 40, and he’s strong — he might be the strongest guy on the team.” The strongest guy on the team? Seriously? “Certainly pound for pound. He might be the strongest squatter,” Lombardi said. “The guy is a freak athlete. I’ve never seen anyone like him at this position.”
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:23 am to goatmilker
who created that fail gif? the line is "I was not aware of that"
Posted on 5/25/18 at 11:43 am to arcsaints42
If he can make plays like this on ST and make some noise as a solid backup QB, that's perfect.
I would love to see him take some reps at WR/H-Back. Don't take the ball out of Brees' hands. Just add another smart playmaker to the mix.
I would love to see him take some reps at WR/H-Back. Don't take the ball out of Brees' hands. Just add another smart playmaker to the mix.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:27 pm to mark65mc
If he's our backup and maybe the future at QB, he's off ST. This instant.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:38 pm to sicboy
quote:
he's our backup and maybe the future at QB, he's off ST. This instant.
I see him as a 3rd string, not the QB of the future. But, he can make use of that 3rd QB roster spot this year in other ways.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 2:05 pm to arcsaints42
He’s had 4 season ending injuries in college?
Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:17 pm to arcsaints42
That would be great if he could develop into a starting caliber QB with that kind of athleticism. But how many years would we be able to rely on him? He's already in his late 20s so if Drew plays two more seasons you're looking at him making his first start ever at 30 years old. I think Barrett would be a better investment as a development project given that he's younger.
Being a QB in the NFL is something that takes a few years to master for most people even for guys taken in the 1st round.
Being a QB in the NFL is something that takes a few years to master for most people even for guys taken in the 1st round.
Posted on 5/25/18 at 3:39 pm to arcsaints42
Why does it have to be a BYU QB? WHY?
Posted on 5/25/18 at 4:39 pm to arcsaints42
quote:
“You see Aaron Rodgers and those kind of guys make plays that way. Just the ability to avoid the rush. The guy runs a sub-4.5 40, and he’s strong — he might be the strongest guy on the team.” The strongest guy on the team? Seriously? “Certainly pound for pound. He might be the strongest squatter,” Lombardi said. “The guy is a freak athlete. I’ve never seen anyone like him at this position.”
Posted on 5/25/18 at 7:55 pm to jcole4lsu
I will find them and put them in the wood chipper
This post was edited on 5/25/18 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 5/26/18 at 7:31 am to arcsaints42
Pretty excited about the growth and development of Hill (and Barrett) to compete for the heir of Drew. Franchise QB’s don’t exactly grow on trees, and last year showed that you can have some success with an average QB if you have a great team and system in place, Minny, Philly, Jax come to mind
Posted on 5/26/18 at 7:38 am to arcsaints42
Consensus from GB fans seem like they were upset Hill was released. He looked good last preseason.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 8:31 am to t00f
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Consensus from GB fans seem like they were upset Hill was released. He looked good last preseason.
Well Rodgers told their GM that he wants his Matty Ice contract so he can get on with his life. So I'm not sure it's going to matter too much.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 8:39 am to sicboy
Agreed but I think when he went down last year they had backup buyers remorse.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 10:14 am to t00f
He looks like he could play TE.
Posted on 5/26/18 at 11:17 am to arcsaints42
I'm trying to figure out from his GB clips who his dropback/throwing motion reminds me of. (???)
I wanna say Matthew Stafford. Maybe Chad Kelly?
And for some reason, his ball zip/velocity makes think of the Jags Mark Brunell for some reason.
I wanna say Matthew Stafford. Maybe Chad Kelly?
And for some reason, his ball zip/velocity makes think of the Jags Mark Brunell for some reason.
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