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So if Kafka gets the job…

Posted on 1/26/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted by DemSaintsDoh
Shreveport, LA
Member since Jan 2014
1195 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 1:18 pm
He’s bringing Wink Martindale as DC…

Personally, I’m not against this. Wink kept Reid afloat with his defense for years.
Posted by DellTronJon
Member since Feb 2010
1515 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 1:32 pm to
Sounds like he is keeping Kafka afloat, too.
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
724 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 1:33 pm to
Kafka has had a lower ranked offense eacb of the last three years. The Giants were the fourth worst offense in 2023 and third worst in 2024. Wink better have the best D in Saints history.

Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5419 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 1:38 pm to
Kafka had his playcalling duties taken away. He was actually calling plays when they made the playoffs.

According to Giants fans they took a turn for the worse when he got demoted. Deboll took over playcalling

Not big on this as a hire but at this point why not. I think I'd probably still prefer Kellen Moore though
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 1/26/25 at 1:55 pm to
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Wink kept Reid afloat with his defense for years.


Who?
This post was edited on 1/26/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73293 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:13 pm to
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Kafka has had a lower ranked offense eacb of the last three years. The Giants were the fourth worst offense in 2023 and third worst in 2024


Daniel Jones made 32 starts
Danny Devito 8
Tyrod Taylor 5
Drew Lock 5
Davis Webb 1

Yall have no problem sucking off Joe Brady when he’s paired with Burrow or Josh Allen, or making excuses for him in Carolina
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68779 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Daniel Jones made 32 starts Danny Devito 8 Tyrod Taylor 5 Drew Lock 5 Davis Webb 1 Yall have no problem sucking off Joe Brady when he’s paired with Burrow or Josh Allen, or making excuses for him in Carolina


This isn’t incorrect.

With that said what exactly has Kafka done besides have really shitty offenses with these shitty QBs?

ETA: I guess they were decent in the run in 2022 but 28th in the pass.

Like at some point we can play the what if game with everyone.
This post was edited on 1/26/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
29504 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:32 pm to
Didn't Payton also get his playcalling duties stripped by Fassel in NY and Parcells in Dallas?
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
7292 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:41 pm to
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Like at some point we can play the what if game with everyone.


Agreed but the LSU fans are wanting Brady because of 2019. They quickly dismiss Brady’s tenure in Carolina blaming injuries and a bad roster (with that logic Allen never should have been fired then). I’ve read that he was "inexperienced" and then got 183649294758393765939 years worth of experience being Buffalos QBs coach in 2022-2023. Then he took over play calling (with a good qb) and now he is a prodigy again and the best thing since Latina pussy.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73293 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:42 pm to
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Like at some point we can play the what if game with everyone.


Well that’s my point. It’s far more nuanced than everyone portrays on a message board

Kafka’s work with Mahomes is what made him a hot name in the first place

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Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
8964 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 2:48 pm to
I never wanted Joe Brady. I’ve always had a feeling he’s a great offensive coordinator, but would be one of those that would be a complete fail as a HC
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
7292 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:01 pm to
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I never wanted Joe Brady. I’ve always had a feeling he’s a great offensive coordinator, but would be one of those that would be a complete fail as a HC


I’m not saying all LSU fans but it’s a lot. And I’m not saying that he couldn’t be a good head coach. I just hate the selective picking of his accomplishments because he was with LSU when they won the natty.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5419 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Didn't Payton also get his playcalling duties stripped by Fassel in NY and Parcells in Dallas?


Yup
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
68779 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:10 pm to
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Agreed but the LSU fans are wanting Brady because of 2019. They quickly dismiss Brady’s tenure in Carolina blaming injuries and a bad roster (with that logic Allen never should have been fired then). I’ve read that he was "inexperienced" and then got 183649294758393765939 years worth of experience being Buffalos QBs coach in 2022-2023. Then he took over play calling (with a good qb) and now he is a prodigy again and the best thing since Latina pussy.


This is why I loved the Coen hire for the jags as much as any of the young OC guys.

Seems to really get running schemes and line play, has elevated QBs who have previously really struggled in other systems, and just has a bit of the “it factor” and an obvious presence in his pressers and post game media.

Seems like as good as any of the up and comers.

Ideally though I’d like my candidates to have produced well at some point more than “rookie Mahomes and him were buddies”

Honestly I think the development of buffalos running game into a bully is a big feather in the Brady cap.
This post was edited on 1/26/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
7292 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:18 pm to
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Ideally though I’d like my candidates to have produced well at some point more than “rookie Mahomes and him were buddies


Right. It’s really no difference than the Brady situation to me. He does great when he has talent…..

And I don’t get why fans are against hiring McCarthy…. He has won everywhere… had a bad roster this year and still won more games than the Saints and are in a harder division.
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
6175 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:21 pm to
Daboll took play calling from him in 23….
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
30061 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:22 pm to
Who!?!
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5419 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:24 pm to
I'm curious as to know why? Sounds like an ego trip
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4672 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:33 pm to
Wink is Michigans def coordinator.

We def want this guy.

Kafka’s resume is boosted if he could get this type of coordinator to come with him.

Also, Kafka’s a qb guy. I like it.

Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
56897 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 3:38 pm to
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Daniel Jones made 32 starts Danny Devito 8 Tyrod Taylor 5 Drew Lock 5 Davis Webb 1


And he’s gonna have a Derrick Carr here
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