- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
So I hope Morestead has removed his head from his arse this week
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:32 am
Cause we'll probably need every advantage possible in the game of field position especially tate is damn good at returning.
4
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:35 am to Chad504boy
I'm not sure what it was, but nothing was going right for the kickers except for Graham. I'm not sure if the humidity was high. The wind was non-existent, but I'm not sure there was one touchback the whole game. Does the cold effect distance?
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:37 am to Patrick O Rly
well if he has a problem with humidity... he really going to have a problem with seattle...
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:37 am to Patrick O Rly
It affects the ball. A colder ball is typically more firm and harder to kick.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:38 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:
Does the cold effect distance?
Yea, the cold will affect the pressure (inflation) of a ball. The colder it is, the less inflated it is, which translates to shorter kicks.
Also doesn't help that kicking a cold ball is akin to kicking a brick. It hurts
Posted on 1/9/14 at 9:41 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
Yea, the cold will affect the pressure (inflation) of a ball. The colder it is, the less inflated it is, which translates to shorter kicks.
Probably right about the pressure, I do know the ball feels a lot harder when it was cold from when I played. I was in the SEC though, Tennessee was the farthest I traveled to play.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:00 am to Chad504boy
IIRC he had a short punt/kick against the Panthers that set up their game winning TD--very unleglike.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 10:02 am
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:09 am to bountyhunter
so less pressure yet the ball feels firmer and more bricklike...
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:10 am to Chad504boy
Please, accept the mystery.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:16 am to Chad504boy
quote:
so less pressure yet the ball feels firmer and more bricklike...
Yea, the actual bladder that the air is kept in has less pressure due to the cold, but the leather of the outer layer of the ball gets stiff.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:36 am to Chad504boy
quote:
Does the cold effect distance?
Sports science did a study and game statistics say that it travels an average of 3 yards less in cold weather. But the ball is hard as hell when its cold. Haha. I was a kicker and its not fun kicking that think when its cold. Your muscles in your legs also just dont want to move when its cold
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:38 am to tigersint
quote:
Sports science
i just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 10:42 am to Chad504boy
Hard to imagine this guy spending a career in Philly.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:50 am to kclsufan
quote:
IIRC he had a short punt/kick against the Panthers that set up their game winning TD--very unleglike.
I'm pretty sure that was a called sky-kick to keep the ball out of Ted Ginn's hands.
Bad call in retrospect.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:51 am to Patrick O Rly
quote:
I'm not sure what it was
The ball was frozen.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:53 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
Yea, the actual bladder that the air is kept in has less pressure due to the cold, but the leather of the outer layer of the ball gets stiff.
The kicking balls are kept at a very precise pressure. Your assertion would only be true if the balls were filled in a different temperature than the playing conditions.
Are you assuming that, or do you know that.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:54 am to Doom
quote:
I'm pretty sure that was a called sky-kick to keep the ball out of Ted Ginn's hands.
Bad call in retrospect.
Yea, I was fairly certain it was intentional.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:57 am to moneyg
quote:
Your assertion would only be true if the balls were filled in a different temperature than the playing conditions.
Do you think all the balls are brought out to the field uninflated?
Regardless, unless they are checking the pressure constantly, there are going to be pressure changes. Not much, but enough to have an effect. It's documented, so I'm not sure why you would question it.
Hell, during the GB/SF game Erin Andrews talked about how the kicker for SF wasn't confident in any kick over 45 yards due to the cold.
Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:01 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Do you think all the balls are brought out to the field uninflated?
The kicking balls are calibrated every game, very specifically. I don't know that it is done on the field, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
quote:
It's documented, so I'm not sure why you would question it.
Link. Would like to read that.
quote:
Hell, during the GB/SF game Erin Andrews talked about how the kicker for SF wasn't confident in any kick over 45 yards due to the cold.
Don't conflate the cold with air pressure. My guess is that a cold, inflated ball would be even harder to kick.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 1/9/14 at 12:05 pm to moneyg
quote:
I don't know that it is done on the field
Well if they do it inside, you go from room temp to freezing temps, thus the pressure will drop. Ideal gas law.
quote:
Link. Would like to read that.
quote:
A cold football will naturally become under-inflated, as temperature is directly proportional to pressure. You’ve probably noticed this effect on an unusually cold morning…it will deflate your car tires just a little bit. Trying to kick a cold football (i.e. trying to kick an under-inflated football) will not transfer energy from the kicker’s foot to the football as efficiently.
We’ve all tried bouncing an under-inflated basketball or volleyball…it doesn’t bounce back as high. This is because there is not as much energy transfer between the ground and the ball due to the lower pressure. Similarly, it is harder to hit a baseball or golf ball as far in colder weather because the energy transfer between the ball and the object is not as efficient. Baseballs hit 400 feet in warm weather may only travel 385 feet in cold weather. A 300-yard drive in June might only travel 290 yards in November.
quote:
Don't conflate the cold with air pressure.
And what do you think the cold affects? Hint PV=nRT
ETA:
quote:
My guess is that a cold, inflated ball would be even harder to kick.
As someone who spent a good amount of my life kicking soccer balls and footballs, I completely disagree.
An inflated ball will always go further than an under-inflated ball. A cold one will hurt more because of the leather being stiff, but the properly inflated ball will always go further.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 12:07 pm
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News