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re: Should we have gotten Addai instead of Bush in the 06 Draft?
Posted on 8/11/08 at 3:48 pm to Edible Dirt
Posted on 8/11/08 at 3:48 pm to Edible Dirt
Don't forget how effective Bush was in the final 10 games of his rookie season:
90 rushes for 429 yards, 4.8 ypc 7 TD
42 receptions for 584 yards for 13.9 yards per catch, 3 TD
Over a 16 game season, that projects to
144 rushes, 686 yards, 11.2 TD
67 catches, 934 yards, 4.8 TD
or that he was pretty good in the 4 game stretch between the team's awful start and his injury in the Jacksonville game:
63 carries, 287 yards, 4.57 ypc, 1TD
25 catches, 155 yards, 6.2 ypr, 1 TD
90 rushes for 429 yards, 4.8 ypc 7 TD
42 receptions for 584 yards for 13.9 yards per catch, 3 TD
Over a 16 game season, that projects to
144 rushes, 686 yards, 11.2 TD
67 catches, 934 yards, 4.8 TD
or that he was pretty good in the 4 game stretch between the team's awful start and his injury in the Jacksonville game:
63 carries, 287 yards, 4.57 ypc, 1TD
25 catches, 155 yards, 6.2 ypr, 1 TD
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Posted on 8/11/08 at 3:51 pm to lpd1975
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lpd1975 -- Nothing makes me feel better about an un-provable statement like that.
Jones-Drews was one of the most exciting players to EVER play college football. You act like you never heard of him before he got to the NFL.
And let's say I'm just completely lying about liking Jones-Drew more than Bush for the 2006 Draft, then how about this:
Looking at it IN HINDSIGHT, do you think we should have taken Bush in 2006 or someone else, like Addai or Jones-Drew or someone else?
Or, in hindsight, do you think Bush was the best person that we could have gotten with our #2 pick, and that he is a valuable asset to our team, and that he will continue to develop and grow into a bigger and bigger star, especially with the addition of Shockey?
Posted on 8/11/08 at 3:51 pm to SaucierTigers
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he would do no better.its o-line also! not just reggie.an play calling we have to admit payton makes some dumb arse play calling too look it early lets give him until regular season .i just hope he doesn't get hurt.PT didn't show me anything either! stinchcomb stink's .IMO nicks may bump him out,an we can trade stnkcomb an get some picks back
+1
Posted on 8/11/08 at 3:52 pm to Edible Dirt
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i'm not a sucker of reggie's balls in any way, but i do believe that his presence on the field alone makes him worth the number 2 pick. Defenses have to play with one eye on him at all times just because they know what he CAN do. Bush can play 58 minutes, have 2 touches, and be a major contributor to the offenses success. Addai does not have that effect.
Good points.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 4:09 pm to Fighting Tigers
I don't care if Bush turns out to have the worst ypc in NFL history, as long as he can be a valuable piece to us having the #1 offense in the NFL. Even if we don't have Deuce, having to defend Bush and Shockey as short-range receivers is not going to be easy for opposing DCs, especially since Colston is a proven threat further down the field... and if Meachem turns out to truly be a 1st Round WR (his recent performance was very promising)... watch out!!! Of course, the person who makes this all possible, our MVP, is Brees. We are very blessed to have Brees.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 4:17 pm to lpd1975
know u knock bush me and including the jackass who started this topic wanted bush okay he hasnt played to his potential but you know u craved for bush when he was coming out
Posted on 8/11/08 at 4:21 pm to robinbutler
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know u knock bush me and including the jackass who started this topic wanted bush okay he hasnt played to his potential but you know u craved for bush when he was coming out
well this post made lots of sense.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 4:26 pm to Fighting Tigers
Not knocking Addai, I truly think he is great, but the Saints don't have nearly the o-line the Colts have. Yeah, they don't give up many sacks, but that is attributable to Payton's scheme. Stinchcomb probably wouldn't start for many teams, neither would Nesbit. Evans is solid as is Jamal Brown (who isn't as good as some Saints fans believe). This is why the FO keeps drafting o-linemen. Put Reggie behind the Colts line, he would look better than he does now; he'd probably be on par with Addai's production.
Just my $.02
Just my $.02
Posted on 8/11/08 at 4:27 pm to robinbutler
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know u knock bush me and including the jackass who started this topic wanted bush okay he hasnt played to his potential but you know u craved for bush when he was coming out
English please!
Posted on 8/11/08 at 4:30 pm to lpd1975
Yes, Yes, and Yes. In all actually we should have traded down and got Addai and a Cromartie
Posted on 8/11/08 at 4:32 pm to Fighting Tigers
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Jones-Drews was one of the most exciting players to EVER play college football.
Reggie Bush and his Heisman dissagree with that. MJD was 1st team All-American over Reggie but let's not go off into revisionist history here. Reggie was the most hyped back for a reason.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 5:38 pm to robinbutler
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know u knock bush me and including the jackass who started this topic wanted bush okay he hasnt played to his potential but you know u craved for bush when he was coming out
huh?Posted on 8/11/08 at 10:06 pm to Fighting Tigers
That is just moronic to the nth power. Addai was taken with the 30th pick and that was around what his value was from predraft scouting by just about every team. Taking him with the 2nd pick would have justified sending you to the crazy farm. I see your point that Addai has played much better than Bush. No one can argue that but to say he should have been selected with the 2nd pick is nuts.
If you are going to use that crazy logic then Addai is not the guy we should have selected. The guy we should have taken is Antonio Cromartie BY FAR.
If you are going to use that crazy logic then Addai is not the guy we should have selected. The guy we should have taken is Antonio Cromartie BY FAR.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 10:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i had maroney ahead of both, for the record
Do you still think Maroney should be ranked ahead of Addai? I don't. Maybe it is a function of their system but Addai has appeared to be the better running back thus far IMO. Not to say Maroney is bad. Far from it. I think he is a better than average RB but is not being fully utilized by NE. Too early to tell but up to this point it is Addai for sure.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 10:12 pm to TiegerTim
Wow, just wow. For once I believe that this thread may have more props that knocks for my boy 25. All you guys make valid points that I have been stating since I joined here.
I'm just glad to hear that my thoughts and opinions on the guy are shared by fans of the black and gold that are more worried about wins and superbowl runs than how many fricking ypc someone has or where they were drafted, or if this guys a bust or that guys a bust.... stats, stats, stats (SFP)....
Bump all the damn negative posts when ya boy starts lighting it up and we can all have a good I told ya so!
I'm just glad to hear that my thoughts and opinions on the guy are shared by fans of the black and gold that are more worried about wins and superbowl runs than how many fricking ypc someone has or where they were drafted, or if this guys a bust or that guys a bust.... stats, stats, stats (SFP)....
Bump all the damn negative posts when ya boy starts lighting it up and we can all have a good I told ya so!
Posted on 8/11/08 at 10:15 pm to whodatfan
I am biting my nails in anticipation of the day we get to use Bush as a complimentary back to a solid RB in the backfield. That solid RB maybe a healthy Deuce, Thomas, or someone not yet on the team. But when that happens, watch the frick out.
This post was edited on 8/11/08 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:00 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
Lets put it this way, if you could trade Reggie before this season for either Addai, Jones-Drew, or Maroney would you do it. If you say "no", then you are not a saints fan, b/c any of those trades would make the saints better.
Posted on 8/11/08 at 11:03 pm to jlsutiger
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Lets put it this way, if you could trade Reggie before this season for either Addai, Jones-Drew, or Maroney would you do it. If you say "no", then you are not a saints fan, b/c any of those trades would make the saints better.
Does that trade come with a cordless drill so that said trade can drill some holes into the O-line. If not, I don't see them doing any better.
This post was edited on 8/11/08 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 8/12/08 at 12:15 am to robinbutler
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know u knock bush me and including the jackass who started this topic wanted bush okay he hasnt played to his potential but you know u craved for bush when he was coming out
No, getting Reggie Bush did not excite me. I'm very sorry. Now had we traded down to get Jones-Drew, I would have been excited. But I was excited to get Brees. Watching him at Purdue was just as exciting to me as watching Jones-Drew at UCLA. Both of those guys impressed me personally in college, while Bush didn't (I'm sorry, but how I felt was how I felt, I can't change that). Also, I am excited that we got Shockey.
This post was edited on 8/12/08 at 12:17 am
Posted on 8/12/08 at 12:43 am to Edible Dirt
should have gone with Addai
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