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re: Saints to try out kickers amidst Garret Hartley’s struggles
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:26 am to hendersonshands
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:26 am to hendersonshands
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Drew couldn't get any power on his throws after the cheap shot evidenced by the throw to Moore in the endzone.
how did we get to the 12 yard line then?
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Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:31 am to Chad504boy
A screen pass to Devery Henderson, which took little to no effort.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:32 am to Chad504boy
quote:You're really going to sit here and tell me that throwing into the endzone is a better strategy than kicking a 29 yard field goal, in overtime in your own domed stadium? Chad. Seriously.
Touche about field goals my friend. We have Drew Brees... I'll take my chances.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:35 am to The Sad Banana
The fact is that even his successful kicks have looked like shite.
Something is wrong with his mechanics or moresteads holds.
Something is wrong with his mechanics or moresteads holds.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:38 am to The Sad Banana
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You're really going to sit here and tell me that throwing into the endzone is a better strategy than kicking a 29 yard field goal, in overtime in your own domed stadium? Chad. Seriously.
OR running. Either way, we gave up free downs. I don't know how you can argue with me on this especially hind sight.
In any case: There is a huge difference with trajectories with a 30yd field goal vs a 22 yard field goal. That kick was good if we gained a few more yards on that badly missed kick. We gave up opportunities to gain yards/try to score. Whatever Payton wanted to call to do so, I wouldn't question that. I also have faith in our MVP quarterback in moments like that. Game on the line, let Drew make a play. But I question his strategy and I think he is too.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:38 am to rondo
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moresteads holds.
Right after the kick, Hartley looked down at the hold spot, like the hold was bad. Or maybe he was just trying to deflect blame to Morstead.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:39 am to Chad504boy
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OR running. Either way, we gave up free downs. I don't know how you can argue with me on this especially hind sight.
ivory and pierre were both hurt too. and ivory had fumbled earlier in the game
do we give the ball to Ladell Betts there?
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:42 am to Lester Earl
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ivory and pierre were both hurt too. and ivory had fumbled earlier in the game
do we give the ball to Ladell Betts there?
Moore, Shockey, Colston, Ivory, PT's limping arse, i don't care. You need to keep the offense moving.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:43 am to Chad504boy
I have to agree with Chad here. Brees was ripping them a new one, moving the team easily down the field with safe passes. One more wouldn't have hurt.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:45 am to Chad504boy
There is no way I take the chances throwing or running the football. Maybe I make Drew take a knee between the hashes, but that's it.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:47 am to The Sad Banana
And i know we're talking about this issue but i'm not trying to make a huge deal about it. I disagreed with the strategy. I understand both sides of reasoning here, it would just be in my preference to have used 1st and 2nd downs in some kind of way to increase our chances of victory, kick a FG if needed on 3rd down so we have another down if snap was bad. That's all. Hartley should have made it no doubt. But nothing is guaranteed and its the coaches job to keep giving us the best opportunity to win...
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:53 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 9/27/10 at 11:55 am to SPEEDY
kris brown is hartley on steroids minus the making a kick to get to the super bowl.
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:01 pm to Chad504boy
quote:That's fine. Say the Saints decide to run the football on first and second downs. You know the Falcons are expecting that, right? The Saints probably gain 0-3 yards at most. 29 or 26 yards for a FG is really not much of a difference. You net two or three yards all while chancing the ball on two plays. Kicking the FG on first down was the right call.
And i know we're talking about this issue but i'm not trying to make a huge deal about it. I disagreed with the strategy. I understand both sides of reasoning here, it would just be in my preference to have used 1st and 2nd downs in some kind of way to increase our chances of victory, kick a FG if needed on 3rd down so we have another down if snap was bad. That's all. Hartley should have made it no doubt. But nothing is guaranteed and its the coaches job to keep giving us the best opportunity to win...
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:03 pm to The Sad Banana
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That's fine. Say the Saints decide to run the football on first and second downs. You know the Falcons are expecting that, right? The Saints probably gain 0-3 yards at most. 29 or 26 yards for a FG is really not much of a difference. You net two or three yards all while chancing the ball on two plays. Kicking the FG on first down was the right call.
So if the falcons were expecting the run like you say right, and we play actioned to shockey, then we win the game right. All based off of your factual theories!
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:04 pm to CM84
I feel like a lot of that has to do with being a gamer. Yes Morestead's hold looked fine but in my opinion I'd rather Daniels out there holding. Think about it this way, in a pressure situation like that whose anxiety level do you think is higher, a winning college QB's with some swagger to him, or a punter? This is not a knock on Morestead but Daniels is used to handling the ball in pressure situations (not NFL experience yet but you get my drift) and I'd like to see how he'd do in that spot. Just sayin...
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:05 pm to Chad504boy
quote:No. That's not what I'm saying at all and talking with you about these things are really mind numbing.
So if the falcons were expecting the run like you say right, and we play actioned to shockey, then we win the game right. All based off of your factual theories!
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:05 pm to TheColorsiBleed
What if we faked the field goal and let morstead flip it over his head ala LSU few years ago and let the emo pick up some yards try to score... we still would have had a 2nd down right?
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:06 pm to The Sad Banana
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No. That's not what I'm saying at all and talking with you about these things are really mind numbing.
You said we were going to run and the falcons had to have expected the run to stop that since we only got 3 yards on 2 obvious run downs.... Come on AJF, i'm applying your theories...
Posted on 9/27/10 at 12:12 pm to TheColorsiBleed
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TheColorsiBleed
jesus christ dude, you're not plugging your website or anything, huh?
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