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re: Saints still need to publicly call out ref incompetence.

Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:23 am to
I’m not even surprised at this point, I expect shite like this now sadly. It appears to happen more to the Saints than anyone (frick Goodell) but the incompetence is apparent in every game basically l.

What I do not get is why no one is held accountable. Why can a coach or player be crucified by the media or league, suspended, fined, fired, etc. yet referees are not only not held to the same standard...they have no standard! We occasionally get an “official statement” or “apology” but that’s the end, so these people have no incentive to get better.

Why is this?? Infuriating
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146370 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:32 am to
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Can anyone say why they ran off ten secs after it was an official l/booth review???

I can

the call for an official review stopped a running clock in an under 2:00 situation

the 10 second run-off (or use of a timeout by a team)... is essentially a way to make up for the officials having to stop a running clock for a replay review

where referee John Hussey and the replay officials screwed up was not resetting the clock back to the time where the play actually ended (:41) and doing the 10 second run off from there

the Saints should've had :31 left... not :16
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8490 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:36 am to
It's funny, even the Local Los Angeles sports show, which is ON THE OFFICIAL RAMS STATION, was railing about the refs last night, both for the runoff mistake AND the bullshite roughing the kicker. And these are guys who always downplay the non-call because they are Rams apologists. It was actually kind of refreshing.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:47 am to
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 11:52 am to
Posted by jpggpj
Chair
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:13 pm to
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where referee John Hussey and the replay officials screwed up was not resetting the clock back to the time where the play actually ended (:41) and doing the 10 second run off from there


The problem I have is the reaction of the public with this. Literally no one is really talking much about this situation (other than us) at all which in turn leads to nothing really being addressed to correct mistakes. This was not a "judgement" mistake. It was an absolute mismanagement of the rules and nothing is in place to stop it from happening again.

I go back to my original statement of the reaction to this not being bigger. Let's say this exact mistake happens but let's change the scenario. Let's pretend it's the NFC championship and the Saints (or any team for that matter) are down by 1. If the situation would have been different, this mistake would be the topic of every talk show or radio discussion nationwide. Although the mistake is exactly the same, the timing of this mistake changes everything and therefore, as usual, the NFL continues to not address or fix anything. It just sucks that the fans support this league by pumping money into it and it's flaws of officiating are nowhere close to being fixed. Timing is everything apparently.
Posted by WhiskeyPlease
Member since Sep 2018
1959 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:15 pm to
no need...the entire Sports world already have.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8490 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:15 pm to
Well, above, you'll see that I posted about the morning sports radio show in Los Angeles spending an entire segment on how egregious it was... so it's not true that no one is talking about it
Posted by jpggpj
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:19 pm to
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Well, above, you'll see that I posted about the morning sports radio show in Los Angeles spending an entire segment on how egregious it was... so it's not true that no one is talking about it


Agreed. I'm comparing the attention to last year's no call in NFC championship. Truth is, this mistake was bigger than the no call. The no call was a judgement mistake. Last night was totally wrong. Nothing to do with judgement, just totally not knowing how to enforce a rule. But again the no call was at the end of a championship game.
Posted by GEAUXTIGER23
Member since Apr 2008
4893 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:30 pm to
The kicker didn't actually even get hit. His leg landed on CGJ
Posted by AlceeFortier
Member since Dec 2016
1795 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:31 pm to
agree with dive. touching aint roughing
Posted by GEAUXTIGER23
Member since Apr 2008
4893 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:32 pm to
It was also an error that was made by the review. You simply can't screw up the rule book after it goes to review.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118232 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:51 pm to
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You simply can't screw up the rule book after it goes to review.




You can when your product isn’t a true sport. When you rule out the idea that the NFL is a “sport” in the traditional sense of the word, with rules and procedures in place to interpret them correctly and fairly, anything the NFL does is understandable. There’s no need for accountability, consequences, or fairness. Suggestions for such are trivial to the NFL or those complicit with their agenda (ratings).
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8490 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 12:57 pm to
Got it
Posted by cleeveclever
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2046 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Can anyone say why they ran off ten secs after it was an official l/booth review???

Because the clock was winding after the play. In those situations they run off 10 seconds to roughly simulate the time that would be lost if the offense ran up to the line and spiked the ball. It’s so that the offense doesn’t get an extra timeout in a critical situation.

So I get why they do it...but they still grossly botched it.

The Thomas play ended at 41 seconds and they rushed to the line and Drew ran a sneak as the whistle bee with the clock at 26 seconds. They reviewed the catch. Determined it was good and a first down and then did the run off from 26 to 16 when it should have been from 41 to 31.

31 seconds and a TO, hell we might have scored a TD. As it was, we only had time for 1 play and a long FG attempt.

Refs botched it. Right call but wrong time reference. They had the video in front of them and still got it wrong.
Posted by paul from louisville
Manaus
Member since Sep 2019
64 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:22 pm to
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The NFL isn’t a sport. It’s like wrestling. Why don’t y’all understand that by now?


my long lost brother. took me this long to find you!!! how can people continue to watch the nfl? it's a movie with a scripted ending
Posted by paul from louisville
Manaus
Member since Sep 2019
64 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:27 pm to
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You can when your product isn’t a true sport. When you rule out the idea that the NFL is a “sport” in the traditional sense of the word, with rules and procedures in place to interpret them correctly and fairly, anything the NFL does is understandable. There’s no need for accountability, consequences, or fairness. Suggestions for such are trivial to the NFL or those complicit with their agenda (ratings).


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BRgetthenet


Love this guy!!!
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13487 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:41 pm to
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I disagree with you on the roughing though. You simply can’t touch the kicker in that situation. Y
I disagree with you though. That was not even close to roughing.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61278 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:43 pm to
Well can you two exchange phone numbers and go text each other your nut job BS and say the fck off this board while the men talk about the Saints?

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74235 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:45 pm to
They would be calling out their own club co-run by 31 other owners.
Not the same thing as calling out a politician or another country.
Careful what you wish for.
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