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re: Saints starting to release some guys on futures contracts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:10 pm to bonethug0180
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:10 pm to bonethug0180
quote:
I don't think we're going to have answers on it really until after the draft. If they don't draft a running back, I think that says 10:01 something. If they do, I think that says something else. um you know, as far as Alvin's concerned, like he's I I talked to him recently. He's just, you know, 10:08 waiting. He's doing good. He's with his family. He's he's not worried about it. 10:11 Like he's planning on playing football and we'll kind of see what happens.
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:46 pm to Proximo
quote:Are you even reading what you copied? He is literally saying they are STILL waiting to see what happens in the next few weeks, that they didn't go in thinking they had to draft a HB (meaning the draft had nothing to do with it, especially since they are STILL waiting), and that they'll see what happens, which very much sounds like every other time Kamara has been brought up that they don't have the answer and are waiting on something.
Mischaracterizing what he said about it tbh
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:47 pm to bonethug0180
you don’t know what you’re talking about. They aren’t waiting on Kamara except to see if he decides to take their paycutPosted on 4/27/26 at 8:49 pm to Proximo
quote:Yeah, exactly. Planning on doesn't mean 100%. THAT'S a mischaracterization. That is something many players have said when they are leaning to playing but still considering retiring.
Like he's planning on playing football
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:51 pm to Proximo
There is no paycut to be made. His base salary is already at minimum and you cannot take away bonuses and such. Nick is straight up wrong there and I have confronted him (and he responded) a few times and he can never explain where the pay cut is coming from.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:57 pm to bonethug0180
quote:
THAT'S a mischaracterization.
You said the exact opposite of what Mickey said, YOU made the mischaracterizarion about it having nothing to do with the draft
when he literally was responding to a question about waiting until after the draft This whole thing wasn’t initiated by Kamara like you’re trying to imply by saying they’re waiting on him. He’s wanted to be on the team all along.
And stop upvoting yourself right after your rants, wait a little while at least to make it believable
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:04 pm to Proximo
The opposite of what Loomis said? Show me where. He literally said we'll see what happens over the next few weeks, which means that the draft obviously had nothing to do with it since whatever "it" is still isn't resolved after the draft.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:26 pm to saints5021
quote:
e should cut 2 more receivers. No reason to draft 3 and only cut 1
Do you believe every draft pick is going to make the team? Do you believe that every player, currently on the roster, makes it through pre-season without injury?
Posted on 4/27/26 at 9:30 pm to BTRDD
Not going to speak for that poster, but Loomis himself said not all the position numbers are where they want them to be and that they'll get adjusted, and WR was specifically pointed out as one of those they were over their ideal number on.
I think one of the cuts being labeled as a TE despite being labeled as a WR in the depth chart was overlooked though. So like Loomis said, that WR number was adjusted.
That doesn't mean it's 3 in 3 out like the other poster was talking about.
I think one of the cuts being labeled as a TE despite being labeled as a WR in the depth chart was overlooked though. So like Loomis said, that WR number was adjusted.
That doesn't mean it's 3 in 3 out like the other poster was talking about.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:06 am to Proximo
quote:
They aren’t waiting on Kamara except to see if he decides to take their paycut
He already restructured and took the pay cut in early March... Now they are waiting to see if he's actually coming back or retires.
If he wants to play then he will be on the roster.
Kamara already restructured and freed up 8mil by converting to signing bonus which makes his base salary under $2mil.
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 8:08 am
Posted on 4/28/26 at 8:24 am to Dantheman504
I'm extremely curious to know where this paycut is going to come from, because when guys take paycuts it's from their base salary, and Kamara was already converted to the minimum. Nick has yet to explain that part, yet he keeps saying it.
He'll respond to me but never actually answer that.
He'll respond to me but never actually answer that.
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 8:25 am
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:22 am to bonethug0180
"The Saints reduced Kamara's 2026 base salary from $18mil to $10mil.
The team utilized a rare CBA rule (the "50% rule") to convert $10mil of his base salary into an unguaranteed signing bonus, spread out over the next five years.
This restructure saved the Saints over 8mil against the 2026 salary cap."
We turned base salary into a signing bonus and then turned guaranteed/ singing bonus into non guaranteed money. He took a legit pay cut to come back this year or retire at a minimum cost to us.
The move gives Kamara the green light to come back on his own accord or allow us to move on without any hiccups. Hinting at the "its AK's choice" comments.
The team utilized a rare CBA rule (the "50% rule") to convert $10mil of his base salary into an unguaranteed signing bonus, spread out over the next five years.
This restructure saved the Saints over 8mil against the 2026 salary cap."
We turned base salary into a signing bonus and then turned guaranteed/ singing bonus into non guaranteed money. He took a legit pay cut to come back this year or retire at a minimum cost to us.
The move gives Kamara the green light to come back on his own accord or allow us to move on without any hiccups. Hinting at the "its AK's choice" comments.
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/28/26 at 9:57 am to bonethug0180
quote:LINK
There is no paycut to be made. His base salary is already at minimum and you cannot take away bonuses and such. Nick is straight up wrong there and I have confronted him (and he responded) a few times and he can never explain where the pay cut is coming from.
LINK
His restructure was purely a bookkeeping move for the cap. Sounds like if his contract is not redone (i.e. a pay cut), he is still due his original money and Saints lose out on the restructuring benefit. The remainder of the salary was turned into an "optional" signing bonus. So maybe that becomes guaranteed at a certain point if he is still on the team.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 10:53 am to NOSHAU
Kamara Contract Details
There was some false/misleading reporting about it originally (such as having $18 mil base which was never accurate, it's was $18 mil TOTAL on the cap), but you can clearly see here his base salary is currently $1.3 mil, which for a player with his vested years is vet minimum, and he literally cannot be cut lower than that.
There is also no listed roster bonus anywhere on there, and I think this was the misleading/confusing part of it because people have never seen the rule used and assumed some things without fact checking.
Now there is a portion that is not guaranteed that was converted, and that amounts to about $3 mil total, and that can be saved ONLY by trading him post June 1st. No other transaction will get him to less than his current cap number (and some will spike it far higher, like cutting or trading him pre June 1st), and he cannot take any more of a pay cut.
And if we go by Kamara's word, straight from his mouth and not second hand, he will retire if traded.
People can speculate and hem and haw and make up whatever they want, but literally the only thing to be done with Kamara is keep him or attempt to trade him post June 1st (unless someone is stupid enough to think we cut him post June 1st to save $376k).
So either that is the "decision" that they are waiting for, or literally the only other thing is if he decides to just retire anyway.
Edit:
And just so it's clear, if he is cut pre June 1st, his cap number jumps to $24.4 mil, which we cannot absorb. If he is traded pre June 1st his cap number jumps to $21.4 mil, which we cannot absorb.
He is on this team no matter what until post June 1st.
There was some false/misleading reporting about it originally (such as having $18 mil base which was never accurate, it's was $18 mil TOTAL on the cap), but you can clearly see here his base salary is currently $1.3 mil, which for a player with his vested years is vet minimum, and he literally cannot be cut lower than that.
There is also no listed roster bonus anywhere on there, and I think this was the misleading/confusing part of it because people have never seen the rule used and assumed some things without fact checking.
Now there is a portion that is not guaranteed that was converted, and that amounts to about $3 mil total, and that can be saved ONLY by trading him post June 1st. No other transaction will get him to less than his current cap number (and some will spike it far higher, like cutting or trading him pre June 1st), and he cannot take any more of a pay cut.
And if we go by Kamara's word, straight from his mouth and not second hand, he will retire if traded.
People can speculate and hem and haw and make up whatever they want, but literally the only thing to be done with Kamara is keep him or attempt to trade him post June 1st (unless someone is stupid enough to think we cut him post June 1st to save $376k).
So either that is the "decision" that they are waiting for, or literally the only other thing is if he decides to just retire anyway.
Edit:
And just so it's clear, if he is cut pre June 1st, his cap number jumps to $24.4 mil, which we cannot absorb. If he is traded pre June 1st his cap number jumps to $21.4 mil, which we cannot absorb.
He is on this team no matter what until post June 1st.
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 11:24 am
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