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re: Saints/Loomis/Payton accused of drug cover up-Shite just got real
Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:31 pm to Da Hammer
Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:31 pm to Da Hammer
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Da Hammer
Appreciate whatever insights you feel like you can share, but sure don't want anyone else getting in trouble.
Seems to me the cover-up may be a bigger issue here and may be what nails Loomis. Any idea how may occurrences of this may have happened?
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:46 pm to kclsufan
Da hammer is belowpar in this situation. His word is truth
Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:47 pm to Bread Orgeron
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Da hammer is belowpar in this situation.
Not unless he spills the beans
Posted on 5/1/10 at 2:49 pm to rintintin
Is Da Hammer a judge ?
Hammer:gavel?? Just a thought
Hammer:gavel?? Just a thought
Posted on 5/1/10 at 3:29 pm to kclsufan
I sure hope that this doesnt turn in to a media nightmare.
This thread needs to be stickied by the way..
I am RA'ing
This thread needs to be stickied by the way..
I am RA'ing
Posted on 5/1/10 at 3:46 pm to thedice20
Update from Florio:
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quote:
In the wake of a lawsuit identifying two unnamed senior members of the Saints' staff as recipients of unauthorized quantities of the painkiller known as Vicodin, we have reported that the two unnamed staff members are coach Sean Payton and assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Vitt.
We're told that Payton is expected to soon issue a statement denying that he stole Vicodin from the team's drug locker. Based on the precise language of the lawsuit, Payton's expected position is accurate. The precise allegation directed to "Senior Staff Member A" (i.e., Payton) is that he received sufficient Vicodin tablets to constitute evidence of abuse.
Paragraph 6 of the "Petition" filed by former director of security Geoffrey Santini alleges that trainer Scottie Patton told Santini that Vicodin pills were missing from the team drug locker. Paragraph 7 alleges that Santini noticed that "a large number of pills" had been dispensed to "Senior Staff Member A" and "Senior Staff Member B." Paragraph 8 alleges that Patton told G.M. Mickey Loomis that "[s]omeone was stealing" the medication. Paragraph 8 also alleges that Patton said the amount of pills dispensed to "Senior Staff Member A" was sufficient to constitute abuse.
Paragraph 11 alleges that video from a hidden camera placed in the room after the issue arose showed that "Senior Staff Member B" had accessed the drug locker and removed pills from a bottle of Vicodin.
Thus, to be clear, the lawsuit alleges that Senior Staff Member A and Senior Staff Member Breceived sufficient amounts of Vicodin to constitute abuse, and that Senior Staff Member B was seen on video tape entering the drug locker and removing Vicodin pills. There is no specific allegation that Senior Staff Member A (i.e., Payton) obtained Vicodin directly from the drug locker. Instead, the only allegation pertaining to Senior Staff Member A is that he was receiving sufficient Vicodin tablets to constitute evidence of abuse.
In an eventual meeting attended by Santini, G.M. Mickey Loomis, and owner Tom Benson, Benson reviewed a memo regarding the situation and allegedly said that Senior Staff Member A and Senior Staff Member B "had placed the team in a bad position."
This clarification and elaboration does not change our earlier report regarding the identity of the unnamed senior staff members. Multiple sources have advised us that "Senior Staff Member A" as used in the lawsuit refers to Sean Payton and that "Senior Staff Member B" as used in the lawsuit refers to Joe Vitt.
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:23 pm to jheine2
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Schedule II drugs like morphine can not be refilled and every script must be in writing.
Not always true but the exceptions are rare. Vicodin is a narcotic....I not only play a pharmacist on TV but I am a clinical pharmacist for real.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:25 pm to tigerbait3488
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Vicodin is a controlled substance...not a narcotic. I work in pharmacy and its my job to know this. A narcotic is a schedule
Uh, you may want to get a new job. This one doesn't seem to be working out for ya.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:41 pm to s-man
welp, s-man, you apparently give them out.
It's my humble duty to push them into people :)
Btw, this (the drug story)is starting to push up a ginuwine shite storm.
It's my humble duty to push them into people :)
Btw, this (the drug story)is starting to push up a ginuwine shite storm.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:45 pm to s-man
i remember when brett favre was addicted to vicodin
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:45 pm to kclsufan
So unless Payton gets fired, the worst case scenario is he gets suspended/goes to rehab. GW takes over as the interim HC. And Breesus can handle the rest from there.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:46 pm to eyeran
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So unless Payton gets fired, the worst case scenario is he gets suspended/goes to rehab. GW takes over as the interim HC. And Breesus can handle the rest from there.
sure hope it doesn't come to that.
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:47 pm to jdrumdog
what's the NFL's policy for the coaches on situations like this? History and/or the like?
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:52 pm to eyeran
I don't recall Favre getting suspended when he was taking Vicodin from his teammates...
...did Barry Switzer even get suspended when he brought a loaded gun on a plane?
...did Barry Switzer even get suspended when he brought a loaded gun on a plane?
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:56 pm to EmperorGout
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I don't recall Favre getting suspended when he was taking Vicodin from his teammates... ...did Barry Switzer even get suspended when he brought a loaded gun on a plane?
Neither of these happened while Hitler, I mean Goodell was commisioner
Posted on 5/1/10 at 4:58 pm to eddieray
Let's look at it this way: the fact the Saints were willing to let the civil suit go public by not paying this dude's hush money must mean they feel pretty confident about their case
Posted on 5/1/10 at 5:01 pm to EmperorGout
good point emperor.
It's the media storm that I don't get. Why let this out when you know it's going to create a pretty big stir?
It's the media storm that I don't get. Why let this out when you know it's going to create a pretty big stir?
Posted on 5/1/10 at 5:01 pm to eyeran
According to the lawsuit Payton isnt actually accused of stealing any pills. Thats if this whole "senior staff member A/B" thing is correct
Senior staff member B(Joe Vitt) was the one caught on camera stealing pills. It would be easy to throw him overboard
Senior staff member B(Joe Vitt) was the one caught on camera stealing pills. It would be easy to throw him overboard
This post was edited on 5/1/10 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 5/1/10 at 5:06 pm to eyeran
Seems like an internal Human Resources matter.
Companies catch people "stealing" or "using drugs" all of the time. It is then a company human resources decision on how to handle the situation.
There are not many companies that will "turn in" or press charges in such a matter, because generally the company does not want the PR problem or to expose themselves to litigation.
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