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Saints Believe Rookie Kendre Miller Can Contribute Immediately
Posted on 7/13/23 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/13/23 at 2:38 pm
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Now that the New Orleans Saints have greater clarity around running back Alvin Kamara's legal situation, they await discipline from the NFL. While the expectation is that the league punishment will still yield a multi-game suspension, some are hopeful that a lesser number of games will be given. In any case, the Saints look to be comfortable and confident in their newly revamped running back room with high expectations around rookie back Kendre Miller and veteran free agency acquisition Jamaal Williams.
But it is Miller that soon steps into the forefront of that conversation. After not being able to participate in any of the team's offseason activities including rookie minicamp, OTAs and mandatory minis, Miller is expected to be a full participant as training camp opens in just a couple of weeks.
Without having any previous body of work to interpret at the NFL level like there is with Williams, Miller's immediate impact may be a little enigmatic for some. But for the Saints, they have a clear vision of how the former TCU Horned Frog can make his presence known right off the jump.
"The first thing is that he has the ability to finish the long-ball," running backs coach Joel Thomas told me during OTAs. "You saw that against Texas and some of the other games. He's got this nice, smooth patience about him. He doesn't panic in the hole. You always feel like he's falling forward. He's got good pad leverage. His feet aren't heavy. he talks about the size of his feet, but they aren't heavy and they don't get stuck in the ground. He's got good contact balance."
So, it is clear to see that the young back has a lot of the tools that the Saints covet at the position. Particularly Thomas' references to contact balance and patience stand out. Those are two large factors in the biggest Kamara plays in recent history. For instance, both were on full display against the Green Bay Packers in 2020 when he evaded six tacklers on his way to a 52-yard touchdown reception. Wherein the star back also showed patience to let blockers race downfield.
Now, expecting Miller to have that level of impact immediately would be a bit unfair. Especially for a player that has only caught 29 passes in his collegiate career. However, just because a team uses a player a particular way in their system, does not mean that player cannot be successful in that role elsewhere. The Saints see the potential of a versatile and highly explosive back in Miller.
As for where his next steps, Thomas was very clear that with Miller not being able to participate until training camp, he will have some ground to make up ahead of Week 1. Calling the period "a race to get him prepared." But there seems to be nothing but confidence in Miller to get there.
"He was a top-5 (running back) easily," Thomas said of the team's thoughts on Miller as a draft prospect. "Film doesn't lie."
I think the rb's will pan out to be one of the better upgrades from last year. There is a good video of the Final mini camp interview from D.A. in this link.
Now that the New Orleans Saints have greater clarity around running back Alvin Kamara's legal situation, they await discipline from the NFL. While the expectation is that the league punishment will still yield a multi-game suspension, some are hopeful that a lesser number of games will be given. In any case, the Saints look to be comfortable and confident in their newly revamped running back room with high expectations around rookie back Kendre Miller and veteran free agency acquisition Jamaal Williams.
But it is Miller that soon steps into the forefront of that conversation. After not being able to participate in any of the team's offseason activities including rookie minicamp, OTAs and mandatory minis, Miller is expected to be a full participant as training camp opens in just a couple of weeks.
Without having any previous body of work to interpret at the NFL level like there is with Williams, Miller's immediate impact may be a little enigmatic for some. But for the Saints, they have a clear vision of how the former TCU Horned Frog can make his presence known right off the jump.
"The first thing is that he has the ability to finish the long-ball," running backs coach Joel Thomas told me during OTAs. "You saw that against Texas and some of the other games. He's got this nice, smooth patience about him. He doesn't panic in the hole. You always feel like he's falling forward. He's got good pad leverage. His feet aren't heavy. he talks about the size of his feet, but they aren't heavy and they don't get stuck in the ground. He's got good contact balance."
So, it is clear to see that the young back has a lot of the tools that the Saints covet at the position. Particularly Thomas' references to contact balance and patience stand out. Those are two large factors in the biggest Kamara plays in recent history. For instance, both were on full display against the Green Bay Packers in 2020 when he evaded six tacklers on his way to a 52-yard touchdown reception. Wherein the star back also showed patience to let blockers race downfield.
Now, expecting Miller to have that level of impact immediately would be a bit unfair. Especially for a player that has only caught 29 passes in his collegiate career. However, just because a team uses a player a particular way in their system, does not mean that player cannot be successful in that role elsewhere. The Saints see the potential of a versatile and highly explosive back in Miller.
As for where his next steps, Thomas was very clear that with Miller not being able to participate until training camp, he will have some ground to make up ahead of Week 1. Calling the period "a race to get him prepared." But there seems to be nothing but confidence in Miller to get there.
"He was a top-5 (running back) easily," Thomas said of the team's thoughts on Miller as a draft prospect. "Film doesn't lie."
I think the rb's will pan out to be one of the better upgrades from last year. There is a good video of the Final mini camp interview from D.A. in this link.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 2:59 pm to hellsu
If AK begins the season suspended the first four games as we suspect and Miller makes the most of those starts, that lines up teams start making calls to shore up their roster. I'm certainly not in the "trade Kamara camp", but the topic becomes interesting for sure.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:17 pm to bountyhunter
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I'm certainly not in the "trade Kamara camp", but the topic becomes interesting for sure.
I am.
RB have a short shelf life and if Williams and Miller prove to be a formidable duo then you trade Kamara while he has the most value.
Now having said that I wouldn't just trade kamara just to trade him (If Williams and Miller aren't holding it down).
One thing is for sure, Kamara, Williams and Miller in the same backfield will be interesting to see but it's not going to last long. Not enough carried to go around and I can say for Kamara for sure, he needs to get 15-20 in a game to hit and keep his rhythm going. That doesn't leave much when you consider Hill will eat into what's left also.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:08 pm to bountyhunter
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'm certainly not in the "trade Kamara camp", but the topic becomes interesting for sure.
He's probably at his lowest value right now until they decide on the suspension. If we can get the old versatile Kamara back he is worth every penny. He was dinged up most of last year if he has another season like that I wouldn't be against shopping him around.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:16 pm to hellsu
He’s not worth taking the risk given his age if his salary is $15mm or more. Trade and get capital
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:45 pm to Snipe
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One thing is for sure, Kamara, Williams and Miller in the same backfield will be interesting to see but it's not going to last long. Not enough carried to go around and I can say for Kamara for sure, he needs to get 15-20 in a game to hit and keep his rhythm going. That doesn't leave much when you consider Hill will eat into what's left also.
It got crowded real quick
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:13 pm to hellsu
The best Saints teams always had a 4th quarter HAMMER. Mike Bell, Ivory, Khiry made a living busting runs and finishing games. Feels like the perfect role for Kendre this season
DRIVEMAN OUT
DRIVEMAN OUT
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:40 pm to hellsu
I’m a fan of Miller.
The only thing I’m concerned about is our offense properly utilizing him.
Examples: Having Mark Ingram on the receiving end of the roll out last year against Tampa instead of Kamara. Having David Johnson off the street run more routes than Kamara in a game last year.
There are some serious concerns about how our offense operated last year with zero changes.
The only thing I’m concerned about is our offense properly utilizing him.
Examples: Having Mark Ingram on the receiving end of the roll out last year against Tampa instead of Kamara. Having David Johnson off the street run more routes than Kamara in a game last year.
There are some serious concerns about how our offense operated last year with zero changes.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:22 pm to hellsu
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If we can get the old versatile Kamara back he is worth every penny.
I don’t know I’m firmly in the get rid of running backs a year early than a year late camp. Doubt he has a ton of trade value though at 28.
I just don’t think carmichael knows how to use him as well as Payton did and his best days are likely behind him as he’s in his late 20s now.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 7/13/23 at 7:29 pm to St Augustine
I think Miller might be our best runner of the ball. I think AK should be used more in the passing game. I’d like to see Carmichael get creative and use both Miller and AK in the same packages.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:45 pm to death valley driver
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HAMMER
Jamaal Williams fits the bill, too
Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:05 pm to death valley driver
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The best Saints teams always had a 4th quarter HAMMER. Mike Bell, Ivory, Khiry made a living busting runs and finishing games. Feels like the perfect role for Kendre this season
It's been a little while since the Saints have had a rounded assortment of backs like this. Pete needs to get aggressive and go back to those days of yesteryear and look at more screen passes. Also with a stout running game take advantage of play action.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 2:15 pm to Hot Carl
Nothing is more dangerous than slot Alvin. Leave the RB stuff to Williams and Miller.
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