re: Realistically, what would the Saints get for Derek Carr in a post-June 1 trade?

Carr = Geno Smith. He is 34 and was traded for a 3rd round pick. He was owed roughly 31 million before the Raiders resigned him. Now, I know the very rational members on this board understand that Carr, at a year younger, with an extra year, is a better asset than Geno. Additionally, a team like the Giants or Steelers, who miss out on Rodgers, could trade for a starting QB and pay him in 2025 less than 2 million and 30 million in 2026.

With that said, the floor for him is a 3rd round pick. However, we can't trade him until June 1st, so picks next season are worth an extra round typically, so he is probably worth a 2nd rounder IF he were traded.

Now, I don't think they will trade him, even if Ward or Sanders falls to us.

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I think that’s HIGHLY unlikely for Carr though.

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not sure the compensation is that unlikely but merely it takes an unlikely situation for all 3 parties to be on same page and the Saints find an alternative plan within our cap constraints.

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Carr = Geno Smith. He is 34 and was traded for a 3rd round pick. He was owed roughly 31 million before the Raiders resigned him. Now, I know the very rational members on this board understand that Carr, at a year younger, with an extra year, is a better asset than Geno. Additionally, a team like the Giants or Steelers, who miss out on Rodgers, could trade for a starting QB and pay him in 2025 less than 2 million and 30 million in 2026.

With that said, the floor for him is a 3rd round pick. However, we can't trade him until June 1st, so picks next season are worth an extra round typically, so he is probably worth a 2nd rounder IF he were traded.

Now, I don't think they will trade him, even if Ward or Sanders falls to us.

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All of this is exactly the way I'm thinking.

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well in this situation, its basically the case of all parties want to move on... walking away with a 2nd rd pick value vs a june 1st cut next year and get nothing is stellar value for us.

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I guess that argument could be made for anything higher than a 4th. A team taking him on now would have a 1 year rental at the vet minimum, then they could either cut him with no dead cap hit or use that leverage to bring down that $50M salary to a reasonable number.

The hit on the Saints would be they save $1.2M on the cap this year but have to take the full ~$60M in 2026. Whereas they could designate him a post 6/01 cut after this season and push $40.5M into 2027. I think as long as the figures Mickey is looking at in 2026 support being able to absorb it; you make the move sooner rather than later (as long as you have a QB you believe you can rely on)

You also need to think of it from the Saints side. They just paid him $40 million real dollars during the restructure. Would it be feasible for the Saints to pay $40 million dollars for a 4th round pick? Starting QBs in the NFL are a premium. If the Saints are going to pay all that money up front, they are not going to trade him for a day 3 pick.

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[quote]We should be giving picks for another team to take over his abomination of a contract/quote]The fact that you don't know that the Saints are paying his contract whether he is traded or not tells me you should not be giving your opinion in this thread. No one can "take over" his contract, but they can get a really cheap QB. Educate yourself before posting next time.

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This is the majority of the fan base. You can't argue with them. You can't reason with them. "Muh Derek Carr is dogshit. Cut him and start Rattler. Cut him and trade for Burrow."