re: Peter King from CNNSI. Mock Draft! Crazy

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Damn. You really are dumb, or at least completely incapable of reading comprehension.

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Nah buddy. Your hindsight 20/20 theories are worthless to me.

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In my opinion, a first round pick at any position other than QB is a failure if the pick is not a quality starter by the end of his first year

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I guess you could argue this, thought I don't agree with it, but it seems pointless.

Players are either good or not. I mean how many times has someone said "Yeah Deuce was a good player for the Saints but he was a failure as a first round pick"

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I guess you could argue this, thought I don't agree with it, but it seems pointless.

Players are either good or not. I mean how many times has someone said "Yeah Deuce was a good player for the Saints but he was a failure as a first round pick"

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Deuce was a great first round pick! He fit the other category that I included, which is a player you pick at a position where the incumbent is in his last year with the team.

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That wasn't known at the time. Ricky was traded and it wasn't expected at the time of drafting deuce.

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Wasn't known by us, you mean. I think the front office knew they were going to have to get rid of him.

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Wasn't known by us, you mean. I think the front office knew they were going to have to get rid of him.

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Well by that logic, if Sharper isn't resigned and Jenkins steps in for us at FS... then it abides by your stupid new rules that you are formulating on the fly.

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Well by that logic, if Sharper isn't resigned and Jenkins steps in for us at FS... then it abides by your stupid new rules that you are formulating on the fly.

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You are absolutely right.

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There are plenty of guys at non-QB spots that don't have good rookie years then become great players.

You never hear people mention that they were failures as first round picks though.

Roddy White took like 3 years to develop into 1000 yard reciever he is today, but he was a failure as a first round pick

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I regret using the word "failure" because, even though I tried to explain what I meant above, that word has a different connotation to many people. What I meant is "below average."

I have to work and don't have time to do this, but I'm sure if I looked at last year's first round, over half of those players had started a game by the end of the season. Those are above average picks. I would, generally speaking, classify those who didn't end up starting a game as below average picks.

Chad, this isn't some kind of official "rule," just a general thought that a team's first round pick should be someone who can start their rookie season, or at the very least by the beginning of their 2nd season. (Of course, some positions are valued higher than others in the draft, so even this is vague. And of course, we're picking at the end of the round, so we could make allowances for that, etc.)

All I'm saying is that I don't want our 1st round pick this year to be someone who's going to sit on the bench or maybe contribute a little on special teams -- do you? Don't you want a starter?

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this regime selects the remaining player that is currently ranked the highest on their board regardless of position

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No way was Malcom Jenkins best player available. He was best player available at a position we badly needed.

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