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Onome Ojo Award Leader after PS Week 1: "Caveman" Martin
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:21 pm
He's back in the black and gold and kicking arse at age 51. Looks like the UDFA favorite this year to make the 53 after one preseason game. Review some assorted scouting report notes-
03/16/13 - 2013 Nebraska Pro Day: Eric Martin, DE (6-1, 237 pounds) - Martin posted a best time of 4.53 in the 40, went 3.97 in the short shuffle and 6.63 in the cone drill. He’s a possible sixth or seventh-round selection for an NFL team looking to the late rounds for some extra defensive help. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com
Eric Martin is an excellent pass-rushing athlete who played for Nebraska in his college days. However, his NFL outlook could constitute a position switch. He's a quick, strong and athletic player who would benefit from a move to an outside linebacker and defensive end hybrid role. He should be taken late in the draft as a rotational player and project for a team needing one.
Overall Strengths
+ Martin has great athleticism and good size for an outside linebacker in both 3-4 and 4-3 sets.
+ Rushing the passer is a true strength for Martin.
+ He's a very secure tackler and delivers hits with good pop.
+ He shows good hand usage for a defensive end, but it would be great at linebacker.
Overall Weaknesses
- He was never used at linebacker and always had his hand in the dirt compromising his potential in college.
- He was rarely used in coverage and therefore is very unknown there.
- There are times when his size becomes a huge disadvantage against the run, and he gets blocked out of plays.
Tools ( + )
+While Martin is average sized for a 4-3 outside linebacker at 6'1", 237 pounds, he would be considered undersized for a 3-4 outside linebacker. He posted some of the best times for any linebacker in the 40-yard dash (4.53 sec), three-cone (6.69 sec) and short shuttle (3.97 sec) (h/t NFLDraftScout).
+His speed on the field is ridiculously good, though, and there's no reason for him to play as a defensive end with his hand in the dirt except for on third downs with how quick and strong he is. His shorter frame helps with leverage, and he is able to convert his speed into power very effectively.
Intangibles, Character and Injuries
-Eric Martin seems like a pretty normal person off the field with just one citation on his record for failure to report backing into a parked vehicle. Martin was also never suspended for off-the-field issues.
-He has missed a game for an on-field hit, but it was just a one-time thing. He was also a game captain for the Cornhuskers and a leader on the field. As far as injuries are concerned, Martin rarely had any outside of a back injury during his senior season.
System ( - )
In college, Eric Martin was used primarily as a 4-3 defensive end. He was rarely used in coverage and was told to set the edge and rush the passer. While he was effective in this role, it makes it hard to believe that he wasn't asked to do more from a two-point stance. With his athleticism, he could have been an exceptional linebacker if given a shot there in the college ranks.
Pass Coverage ( - )
-Pass coverage isn't the key of Eric Martin's game. However, it's more due to inexperience than actual talent. He rarely had any dropbacks into coverage, and when he did do anything in coverage, it was on screens and on plays in the flats. He isn't effective at getting his hands up in the passing game on pass rushes either.
Pass Rush ( + )
-As far as pass rush is concerned, this is easily the strongest part of his game. He can use his smaller, quicker frame similar to Robert Mathis of the Colts. He gets great leverage on bigger linebackers and can convert his speed into power effectively in a bull rush.
He reads blocking schemes effectively and can create pressure from either side of the field. He would be a very unique fit if he could transfer his abilities with his hand in the dirt into a more standing role. It would allow the NFL team who brings him in to play him in both an end and linebacker spot.
Against the Run
-He sets the edge effectively on either side of the ball and uses his leverage to push the tackles that he goes up against back into the play.
-However, he tends to overpursue at times and doesn't have the discipline to stick with the zone read effectively. Other than that, he's a very good defensive end against the run, and as a linebacker, he could learn the patience and discipline it takes to be even better.
Tackling ( + )
Eric Martin is about as sure of a tackler as any player in the draft. He also shows ability to knock the ball out of the opposing players' hands and hits like a Mack truck. He rarely misses any tackles when he goes one-on-one with a ball-carrier. Expect him to have the same kind of success as a linebacker in the pros tackling players due to the pop that he can deliver.
Use of hands ( + )
+There's two words that come to mind when watching Eric Martin's hand usage: violent and intelligent.
+He plays games with the offensive linemen he engages with and uses the great leverage to his advantage. His speed-to-power conversion is shown in his hands more than anywhere else as he can bull rush and rip better than any player in this year's draft at linebacker.
Role & Scheme Fit
Martin projects best as a 3-4 outside linebacker or a 4-3 outside linebacker who would be in a heavy blitzing role that on third downs could put his hand in the dirt as an end. Ideally, he fits in well in a multiple front and formation defensive scheme where he will continually get after the quarterback and run blitz most of the time. He'll also be used on special teams, which was his true strength in college.
03/16/13 - 2013 Nebraska Pro Day: Eric Martin, DE (6-1, 237 pounds) - Martin posted a best time of 4.53 in the 40, went 3.97 in the short shuffle and 6.63 in the cone drill. He’s a possible sixth or seventh-round selection for an NFL team looking to the late rounds for some extra defensive help. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com
Eric Martin is an excellent pass-rushing athlete who played for Nebraska in his college days. However, his NFL outlook could constitute a position switch. He's a quick, strong and athletic player who would benefit from a move to an outside linebacker and defensive end hybrid role. He should be taken late in the draft as a rotational player and project for a team needing one.
Overall Strengths
+ Martin has great athleticism and good size for an outside linebacker in both 3-4 and 4-3 sets.
+ Rushing the passer is a true strength for Martin.
+ He's a very secure tackler and delivers hits with good pop.
+ He shows good hand usage for a defensive end, but it would be great at linebacker.
Overall Weaknesses
- He was never used at linebacker and always had his hand in the dirt compromising his potential in college.
- He was rarely used in coverage and therefore is very unknown there.
- There are times when his size becomes a huge disadvantage against the run, and he gets blocked out of plays.
Tools ( + )
+While Martin is average sized for a 4-3 outside linebacker at 6'1", 237 pounds, he would be considered undersized for a 3-4 outside linebacker. He posted some of the best times for any linebacker in the 40-yard dash (4.53 sec), three-cone (6.69 sec) and short shuttle (3.97 sec) (h/t NFLDraftScout).
+His speed on the field is ridiculously good, though, and there's no reason for him to play as a defensive end with his hand in the dirt except for on third downs with how quick and strong he is. His shorter frame helps with leverage, and he is able to convert his speed into power very effectively.
Intangibles, Character and Injuries
-Eric Martin seems like a pretty normal person off the field with just one citation on his record for failure to report backing into a parked vehicle. Martin was also never suspended for off-the-field issues.
-He has missed a game for an on-field hit, but it was just a one-time thing. He was also a game captain for the Cornhuskers and a leader on the field. As far as injuries are concerned, Martin rarely had any outside of a back injury during his senior season.
System ( - )
In college, Eric Martin was used primarily as a 4-3 defensive end. He was rarely used in coverage and was told to set the edge and rush the passer. While he was effective in this role, it makes it hard to believe that he wasn't asked to do more from a two-point stance. With his athleticism, he could have been an exceptional linebacker if given a shot there in the college ranks.
Pass Coverage ( - )
-Pass coverage isn't the key of Eric Martin's game. However, it's more due to inexperience than actual talent. He rarely had any dropbacks into coverage, and when he did do anything in coverage, it was on screens and on plays in the flats. He isn't effective at getting his hands up in the passing game on pass rushes either.
Pass Rush ( + )
-As far as pass rush is concerned, this is easily the strongest part of his game. He can use his smaller, quicker frame similar to Robert Mathis of the Colts. He gets great leverage on bigger linebackers and can convert his speed into power effectively in a bull rush.
He reads blocking schemes effectively and can create pressure from either side of the field. He would be a very unique fit if he could transfer his abilities with his hand in the dirt into a more standing role. It would allow the NFL team who brings him in to play him in both an end and linebacker spot.
Against the Run
-He sets the edge effectively on either side of the ball and uses his leverage to push the tackles that he goes up against back into the play.
-However, he tends to overpursue at times and doesn't have the discipline to stick with the zone read effectively. Other than that, he's a very good defensive end against the run, and as a linebacker, he could learn the patience and discipline it takes to be even better.
Tackling ( + )
Eric Martin is about as sure of a tackler as any player in the draft. He also shows ability to knock the ball out of the opposing players' hands and hits like a Mack truck. He rarely misses any tackles when he goes one-on-one with a ball-carrier. Expect him to have the same kind of success as a linebacker in the pros tackling players due to the pop that he can deliver.
Use of hands ( + )
+There's two words that come to mind when watching Eric Martin's hand usage: violent and intelligent.
+He plays games with the offensive linemen he engages with and uses the great leverage to his advantage. His speed-to-power conversion is shown in his hands more than anywhere else as he can bull rush and rip better than any player in this year's draft at linebacker.
Role & Scheme Fit
Martin projects best as a 3-4 outside linebacker or a 4-3 outside linebacker who would be in a heavy blitzing role that on third downs could put his hand in the dirt as an end. Ideally, he fits in well in a multiple front and formation defensive scheme where he will continually get after the quarterback and run blitz most of the time. He'll also be used on special teams, which was his true strength in college.
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:24 pm to blueslover
MORE! (from a Seahawks fan)...
As you may or may not know, my dad is a rabid Nebraska fan and he gushed about Martin when I asked him for a scouting report. Martin was a fan favorite for his relentless and haphazard style of play - he was nicknamed 'Caveman' for what I can only assume to be a primal, instinctual and violent demeanor on the field. He's the kind of guy, said my dad, that hits you so hard that he hurts himself, but he gets up laughing about it. 'Loves ball,' as you hear Seattle coaches saying so often.
When you look up Eric Martin on YouTube the only three or four videos worth watching are highlights of him knocking out opposing players cold on kickoff returns, which I think is a fairly apt way to represent him as a prospect. I mean, seriously, in the video above, the dude just looks dead on his feet when Martin hits him (he didn't die).
I see Martin, if Pete Carroll gets a glowing review from his friend, Cornhuskers head coach Bo Pelini, as a core special teams ace for the Hawks - much in the way that Heath Farwell has carved out a role for himself on the roster. Martin isn't going to be a guy that you depend on as a mainstay on the defensive line, but I wouldn't be totally adverse to using him in nickel packages to rush the passer or throwing him in at linebacker for some blitz work. Think Dexter Davis - another 7th round pick at defensive end that measured in at about 6'1, 245.
At 6'1, 245, he registered some insane numbers at his pro day: a swift 4.53 40 is impressive in its own right, but his agility drills were off the charts - registering a 3.97 short shuttle and a 6.63 in the 3-cone drill. For perspective, that 40 would have been 2nd at the Combine among all DL and LB, his short shuttle first by a LONG shot, and his 3-cone number would have been 3rd among all players - including defensive backs and receivers.
As you may or may not know, my dad is a rabid Nebraska fan and he gushed about Martin when I asked him for a scouting report. Martin was a fan favorite for his relentless and haphazard style of play - he was nicknamed 'Caveman' for what I can only assume to be a primal, instinctual and violent demeanor on the field. He's the kind of guy, said my dad, that hits you so hard that he hurts himself, but he gets up laughing about it. 'Loves ball,' as you hear Seattle coaches saying so often.
When you look up Eric Martin on YouTube the only three or four videos worth watching are highlights of him knocking out opposing players cold on kickoff returns, which I think is a fairly apt way to represent him as a prospect. I mean, seriously, in the video above, the dude just looks dead on his feet when Martin hits him (he didn't die).
I see Martin, if Pete Carroll gets a glowing review from his friend, Cornhuskers head coach Bo Pelini, as a core special teams ace for the Hawks - much in the way that Heath Farwell has carved out a role for himself on the roster. Martin isn't going to be a guy that you depend on as a mainstay on the defensive line, but I wouldn't be totally adverse to using him in nickel packages to rush the passer or throwing him in at linebacker for some blitz work. Think Dexter Davis - another 7th round pick at defensive end that measured in at about 6'1, 245.
At 6'1, 245, he registered some insane numbers at his pro day: a swift 4.53 40 is impressive in its own right, but his agility drills were off the charts - registering a 3.97 short shuttle and a 6.63 in the 3-cone drill. For perspective, that 40 would have been 2nd at the Combine among all DL and LB, his short shuttle first by a LONG shot, and his 3-cone number would have been 3rd among all players - including defensive backs and receivers.
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:37 pm to blueslover
damn with that scouting report seems like he's the next Bruce Irvin
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:46 pm to blueslover
So what kept teams from drafting him?
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:48 pm to Hoodoo Man
@blues...do you type all that shite?
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:55 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
So what kept teams from drafting him?
He's a DE with no experience in coverage, and his odd size for LB in 3-4s/4-3s. Others seemed like a "more sure thing".
Posted on 8/15/13 at 4:58 pm to hugme49
quote:
do you type all that shite?
When I die they'll name a Datty after me for the most prolific copy n paster each year
As far as not drafted... he was basically a special team stud and didn't start on D until his SR season. Then he seemed to be miscast as a DE. And as bounty said he doesn't fit the mold for 3-4OLB physically.
Big hit here, check at 1:13, #46 HERE
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 5:04 pm
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