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re: OLB Victor Butler will visit the Saints on Thursday
Posted on 3/21/13 at 12:00 am to fightingtigers98
Posted on 3/21/13 at 12:00 am to fightingtigers98
Bunch of good info/metrics here:
LINK
It notes that Butler isn't just the pass rusher everyone is making him out to be. The opponent passed the ball 57% of his plays and ran the other 43%, so he certainly has experience there.
Butler's grade against the run per PFF over his career:
2009 = -1.7
2010 = 0.3
2011 = 1.7
2012 = 6.1
Can't find any coverage metrics, but I couldn't help but notice he had 3 passes defended in ~300 snaps. Spencer (who played the same position), had 3 PD's in ~850 snaps. Ware had 0, but he's used in coverage a lot less often.
LINK
It notes that Butler isn't just the pass rusher everyone is making him out to be. The opponent passed the ball 57% of his plays and ran the other 43%, so he certainly has experience there.
Butler's grade against the run per PFF over his career:
2009 = -1.7
2010 = 0.3
2011 = 1.7
2012 = 6.1
Can't find any coverage metrics, but I couldn't help but notice he had 3 passes defended in ~300 snaps. Spencer (who played the same position), had 3 PD's in ~850 snaps. Ware had 0, but he's used in coverage a lot less often.
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 1:24 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Just seeing this 
Posted on 3/21/13 at 6:04 am to Brettesaurus Rex
This could be a sign that they think Nhamdi is leaning towards SF because its highly unlikely they can afford both...I hope I'm wrong
Posted on 3/21/13 at 6:52 am to eyeran
If we went after Kruger like we did we must have more money for FA's than we can see. Would hope its not a either or but you never know.
If any GM could pull off getting Asom and Butler its Loomis.
Good news.
Blu is guite giddy I'm sure
If any GM could pull off getting Asom and Butler its Loomis.
Good news.
Blu is guite giddy I'm sure
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:01 am to goatmilker
Black and Gold Superbowl, I can feel the blood amassing in my peen
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:06 am to goatmilker
I didn't think Ryan would be THIS beneficial to have as a coordinator. Many guys seem to want to play for him. It's exciting 
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:55 am to Brageous
New Orleans Saints and pass rusher Victor Butler seem like a perfect match
quote:
The 6-foot-2, 245-pounder spent the past two years working with new Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan in Dallas, playing in the same 3-4 scheme the Saints will now employ. He seems primed for a larger role after tallying 11 career sacks as a backup behind standouts DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer the past four years years. And he should come at a reasonable price - especially since he has lasted this long in the open market.
quote:
Former NFL player and scout Bucky Brooks, who now works as an analyst for NFL.com, offered a similar breakdown, saying Butler could potentially develop into a standout situational pass rusher like Paul Kruger, who broke out this past year with the Baltimore Ravens.
Brooks also suggested that no one would have a better scouting report on Butler than Ryan.
quote:
In New Orleans, he would presumably leap to the front of an outside linebacker rotation that also includes youngsters Junior Galette and Martez Wilson - though both of them also have the potential to make bigger impacts in the new 3-4 defense.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 8:00 am
Posted on 3/21/13 at 7:59 am to Hugo Stiglitz
I hope this happens today
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:14 am to cssamerican
quote:
I just don't see us taking an OT in the first round. We don't like paying OT big money
agreed. we build our line from the inside out and place our premium on OGs. Id expect to see a 3rd for OT and maybe a FA or two to add depth/competition. Maybe a move up in to the 2nd, but i have trouble seeing the 1st.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:30 am to BobBoucher
Nnamdi's gone. There is no Nnamdi.
I would love to sign us some Victor though.
Best Patched Up Defense In The League
I would love to sign us some Victor though.
Best Patched Up Defense In The League
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:34 am to Birdie King
quote:
Nnamdi's gone. There is no Nnamdi.
Not arguing but why do you say this with such confidence?
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:37 am to thedogman
Got the twitter feed open. I've prepared my anus!
Wait....what?
Wait....what?
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:43 am to SaintEB
I think Butler would be a nice addition at the right price. He is a Gallette-type player that needs more playing time. I wonder how many here even knew who he was before free agency though and now everyone is excited.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:44 am to NOSHAU
quote:
I wonder how many here even knew who he was before free agency though and now everyone is excited.
Have you heard about EB's anus?
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 8:46 am
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:45 am to goatmilker
quote:
Blu is guite giddy I'm sure
not giddy like the rumors of big dollar high profile free agents. You have to pay an exorbitant premium to get the Krugers or Revis type players. We don't have that luxury. Who they go after will have some sort of question mark or factor to consider. Personally I like going after younger guys that you are betting on to break out to a level higher than what they have on their resume so far- versus hoping an old guy can have enough gas to get through another season or two. Keenan Lewis is exactly that as well.
Early on Butler clearly stood out in that fit to me. Remember before last year Anthony Spencer was considered somewhat of a disappointment. The sentiment in Dallas before 2012 was that Butler would be the starter in 2013 if Spencer didn't break out. Fortunately for us, Spencer's advancement is likely pushing him our way. I dunno that he will be a studly star. I love that RR has the intimate knowledge of who he is as a player and that he fits into the budget.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:45 am to NOSHAU
quote:
I wonder how many here even knew who he was before free agency though and now everyone is excited.
we didnt run a 3-4 then which i think makes it irrelevent. Not to mention we didnt have his former coach.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 8:47 am
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:46 am to thedogman
(Nnamdi)
I'm just not feeling it. He's like a hot chick with perky nipples that stops by and shows you her new lime green thong.
Then leaves and never calls you back.
And I'm OK with that.
Biotch.
I'm just not feeling it. He's like a hot chick with perky nipples that stops by and shows you her new lime green thong.
Then leaves and never calls you back.
And I'm OK with that.
Biotch.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 8:49 am
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:47 am to SaintEB
quote:
I've prepared my anus!
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 8:49 am
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:47 am to thedogman
Sounds like he's only assuming caused Nnamdi didn't sign before he left from his visit.
Horrible assumption though.
There's no news on whether he's leaning towards 49ers or Saints.
Horrible assumption though.
There's no news on whether he's leaning towards 49ers or Saints.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 8:49 am to TiGeRTeRRoR
quote:
There's no news on whether he's leaning towards 49ers or Saints.
He may be waiting to see if there are any other suitors. Thats only good for a short period though as he risks the market drying up as he risks over playing his hand. I expect we hear something by COB Friday.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 8:51 am
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