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re: NOPD logs show no record of 911 call to report hit and run
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:32 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:32 pm to Lester Earl
Honestly, I watched the hit and run video over and over, and although I'm pretty sure he bumped into him, it was in no way a 'bad' collision...
All legal bullshite and posturing aside, this whole frickig thing is senseless and should have NEVER happened
All legal bullshite and posturing aside, this whole frickig thing is senseless and should have NEVER happened
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:34 pm to beauchristopher
So you are saying Hayes is already guilty to you?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:35 pm to Lester Earl
Lester, tell the truth... Is this about bringing justice and closure to this incident, or have you completely made this into a 'I'm right and I told you so' type of situation??
Have you ever considered a career in LE? Or would that get in the way of your true passion: web sleuthing?
Have you ever considered a career in LE? Or would that get in the way of your true passion: web sleuthing?
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:36 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The first day, it was consensus over here that Hayes was a crazed lunatic that killed Smith in a clear case of cold blooded road rage and Hayes was a typical thug
I think the actual facts have proved there is way more to this case then a simple open and shut that most felt it was.
I think you are being disingenuous Vacherie if you cant admit this has changed from the original report we had
On day one, this was reported as a fender bender/hit and run that escalated into a shooting in which Hayes shot an unarmed man in the back.
What has changed? All of Lester's what if's and accusations of malfeasance by the NOPD and Smith Fly lawyers doesn't change any of that.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:40 pm to beauchristopher
quote:
Yet you believe his lawyer who makes bogus claims he's not the aggressor.
But the 911 call PROVES he wasn't the aggressor!
oh wait....
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:43 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
haven't changed any facts. I was going off of Smiths lawyers words which we all know to be false
Quote where his lawyer said he was on the ground.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:43 pm to Mr. Hangover
quote:
Is this about bringing justice and closure to this incident,
as i said i find it fascinating in many respects. One of the main aspects is people condemning Hayes based off the original NOPD press conference, when we clearly didnt have enough info. What is sad, actually, is that people are still maintaining that is what happened, despite other factual evidence that has came out.
quote:
or have you completely made this into a 'I'm right and I told you so' type of situation??
Do you see it this way because I have continually disproved rumor with facts as they have came out?
That has less to do with me wanting to be right as it does with people simply talking out of their arse.
Besides, that has what these threads have turned into. This is a forum to do such that.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:44 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Care to comment on your quote that Racquel was hit by stray bullets? What made that a fact again?
Do you see it this way because I have continually disproved rumor with facts as they have came out?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:46 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
as i said i find it fascinating in many respects. One of the main aspects is people condemning Hayes based off the original NOPD press conference, when we clearly didnt have enough info. What is sad, actually, is that people are still maintaining that is what happened, despite other factual evidence that has came out.
Well, shooting a guy 7 times in the back isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for your innocence.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:46 pm to WhoDat37
standing over a body =/= body on the ground
He knows that though.
He knows that though.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:49 pm to WhoDat37
quote:
Quote where his lawyer said he was on the ground.
quote where his lawyer mentioned Will Smith being found slumped in his car because he was going for his gun.
Oh yea, he didnt mention that.
Its sad that you cant see what the point of that presser was about
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:50 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
quote where his lawyer mentioned Will Smith being found slumped in his car because he was going for his gun.
Oh yea, he didnt mention that.
So you're "deflecting" because you made it up.
Thanks
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:50 pm to Lester Earl
the journalist would not have info on who made the call. The only people that have info on who are the authorities. The only info that is or can be public knowledge at this point is that there were two phone calls made and the towers that received them, and the fact that no phone calls were placed IN THAT AREA of the first reported hit and run incident. If a call was placed, and the phone rang at the 911 call center, it was recorded. It does not have to be answered to be on record as a phone call into the 911 center.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:52 pm to MightyYat
quote:
Well, shooting a guy 7 times in the back isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for your innocence.
the numbers of times shot is one of the most irrelevant things about the whole ordeal. Its easy to get excited about that on the service but that will be put to bed rather quickly in court
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:54 pm to LSUSkip
Hey skip, thanks for the input. Can I ask if he you have backround in this? id like to ask another question or 2
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:56 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
the numbers of times shot is one of the most irrelevant things about the whole ordeal. Its easy to get excited about that on the service but that will be put to bed rather quickly in court
Kind of makes the whole self-defense angle a little washy at best, no? I guess the location of Smith's loaded gun is kind of big piece of the puzzle at this point.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:56 pm to Lester Earl
fair answer...
i understand your frustrations with everyone over-reacting and jumping to conclusions from the get-go, but just because you waited two or three days to start fighting fire with fire, doesn't make you right... everything right now is hear-say. NOTHING is fact until proven in the court of law.. i don't believe anything that hayes' lawyer says, nor do i believe what the smith camps' lawyer has to say.. the only solid (public) proof out right now about anything is the 'hit and run' video and even that has left something to debate about the severity of the initial incident
honestly, deep down inside, i want to believe that will smith had no wrong doing in this situation. however, i will stand by what i said when this first happened.. i will wait until all FACTS are out until i can honestly form my own opinion and feel confident about what i am arguing about
quote:
Do you see it this way because I have continually disproved rumor with facts as they have came out?
i understand your frustrations with everyone over-reacting and jumping to conclusions from the get-go, but just because you waited two or three days to start fighting fire with fire, doesn't make you right... everything right now is hear-say. NOTHING is fact until proven in the court of law.. i don't believe anything that hayes' lawyer says, nor do i believe what the smith camps' lawyer has to say.. the only solid (public) proof out right now about anything is the 'hit and run' video and even that has left something to debate about the severity of the initial incident
honestly, deep down inside, i want to believe that will smith had no wrong doing in this situation. however, i will stand by what i said when this first happened.. i will wait until all FACTS are out until i can honestly form my own opinion and feel confident about what i am arguing about
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:57 pm to MightyYat
quote:
Kind of makes the whole self-defense angle a little washy at best, no? I guess the location of Smith's loaded gun is kind of big piece of the puzzle at this point.
In self defense classes around the country you are taught to shoot to kill, until that threat is no longer present. If he had to shoot 8x, then so be it.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:01 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
In self defense classes around the country you are taught to shoot to kill, until that threat is no longer present. If he had to shoot 8x, then so be it.
It's interesting because every shot was in the back and from reasonably close range. The location of Smith's gun is a pretty big deal.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:02 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
In self defense classes around the country you are taught to shoot to kill, until that threat is no longer present. If he had to shoot 8x, then so be it.
Yes, yes! And then the cops pried the gun out of Smith's hand, locked it in the glove box, and told 10 witnesses at the scene to lie about it!!
Totally reasonable!
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