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re: NOPD logs show no record of 911 call to report hit and run

Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:49 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:49 am to
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You've posted shite from Hayes' defense attorney as fact and then totally dismissed everything the Smith family attorney said



again, video and witness evidence have backed up with Fuller has said. He whiffed on the 911 call, but the things Will Smith's lawayer said has zero consistency with what the video evidence and witnesses have uncovered. We do have some facts in this case. This is no speculation. This does not make me smug.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:53 am to
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Presenting the facts like when you added words to the lawyers comments

Aka ground


i should have looked up "standing over" in the dictionary before posting that.

Lawyer conveniently left out the fact that Smith was found slumped over in the driver seat for some reason. Hmm, wonder why.

Right after he depicted the scene of Will Smtih standingoutside of his vehicle.


It is kind of sad we've come down to the point of breaking down a simple word like that, but i understand the concept of attempting to "1 up" at this point in this ordeal. You got me, you got me good.
Posted by MightyYat
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:54 am to
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again, video and witness evidence have backed up with Fuller has said. He whiffed on the 911 call, but the things Will Smith's lawayer said has zero consistency with what the video evidence and witnesses have uncovered. We do have some facts in this case. This is no speculation. This does not make me smug.


What witness evidence? You only have some parts of stories from people that were in the area when it happened. The people that matter in this case haven't had their statements made public yet. But again, you're defending everything Fuller has said to this point and dismissing the 911 thing as just "a whiff." C'mon now.
Posted by Keeble9145
Member since Sep 2015
975 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:58 am to
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So how was she shot outside the car, in the front, in both legs if she was going for the gun?


The same reason Will Smith was shot outside of the car. How do you know the angle of the shooter? We don't know where anyone was standing or anything. If he was parallel with the passenger door he is the first person to ever curve a bullet in the history of mankind because there was a shot in Will's side chest. The only way that could've happened is if his first shot was from the side which all the people on here have concluded that he shot him in the back first. So which is it?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287799 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:58 am to
Im seriously not going over this again. If you've been following the case and you watched his press conference, you know what he lied about and other things he simply left out.

And im not hating him for that, it's his job to make a statement on behalf of the family. But there is a reason that legal experts are saying that press conference didn't exactly help the case against Cardell Hayes.

For people to use his press conference as an argument piece on this board is ridiculous.
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:59 am to
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If he was parallel with the passenger door he is the first person to ever curve a bullet in the history of mankind because there was a shot in Will's side chest.




You can easily see how will was shot in the side if the shooter was parallel to the door.

This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board.

He'd have to curve the bullet to put it into the passenger door
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 11:05 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:02 am to
There's been nothing factual released to confirm or deny anything that is actually going to make or break this case.

Right now, its all about people's perspectives on how they choose to perceive both arguments. Both sides can make valid points but truth be told, we're all arguing for the side we choose to be on. Lester is no different.

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287799 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:10 am to
I'm not choosing any side. If it comes out that Hayes is guilty, then let him roast. But it's unfair to dismiss his side of the story with out having all the info.

Most people are choosing Will Smiths side, well, because he was a Saint. Which is so simple minded it's hard to wrap my head around. But ok. This is a Saints board. So be it.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:11 am to
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Most people are choosing Will Smiths side, well, because he was a Saint.


I'm guessing you think this is another fact.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
175096 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:12 am to
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Most people are choosing Will Smiths side,


i disagree. there's been an overly abundant amount of people on this board including you thats wanting to see every point of view from Hayes' perspective, not any other.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127733 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:23 am to
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Most people are choosing Will Smiths side, well, because he was a Saint.


I think people are choosing his side because he's dead, the other guy shot him, did so 7-8 times in the back and also shot his wife twice.

Could be relevant.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:25 am to
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I think people are choosing his side because he's dead, the other guy shot him, did so 7-8 times in the back and also shot his wife twice.

Could be relevant.


Take off the black and gold glasses brah.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:26 am to
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And im not hating him for that, it's his job to make a statement on behalf of the family. But there is a reason that legal experts are saying that press conference didn't exactly help the case against Cardell Hayes.


It doesn't have to do shite. He won't be involved in trying to prosecute Hayes.

quote:

For people to use his press conference as an argument piece on this board is ridiculous.



I don't really think anyone did this but it's not different than you wearing Fuller pajamas every day in this thread.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287799 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:28 am to
That's just not true. As this thing drags on you lose sight of what the initial arguments were on this board. They all ended up going against Will Smith so I can see why you think that way.

The most important evidence in Smiths favor have yet to be presented. so yea, maybe he didn't do anything to warrant getting shot. We just don't know that yet. But I'm not simple minded enough to give him that benefit cause he played for the Saints. He did a lot of stupid things that night
Posted by tigerbytail
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Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:30 am to
The one fact that the police has said that no one seems to grasp. Only one gun was fired and that wss Hayes gun. Police stated Wills gun was found inside car and fully loaded. Hayes is toast unless they can put a gun in Wills hand. Going for his gun doesn't give Hayes the right to shoot the man in the back
This post was edited on 4/21/16 at 11:31 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:30 am to
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But I'm not simple minded enough to give him that benefit cause he played for the Saints


Can you link to some people doing that?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287799 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:31 am to
If this whole ordeal would only be that simple.

If this was Jarvis Smith from Central city no one would be so quick to announce his innocence without seeing the evidence as to what actually happened
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88567 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:34 am to
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If this was Jarvis Smith from Central city no one would be so quick to announce his innocence without seeing the evidence as to what actually happened


Back up your speculation or stop spouting it as fact.

If you're wondering why you're the poster child for smug on this board, consider this exhibit A.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34841 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:35 am to
Really... People are so wound up over this
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287799 posts
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:38 am to
You calling anyone smug is funny. Ive posted on this board a long time, and I've never seen someone discredit FACTS as often as you have done in this thread.

Frankly you should be embarrassed but I'm sure your ego doesn't allow that.
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