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re: NOPD logs show no record of 911 call to report hit and run

Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by tigerbytail
slapout
Member since Mar 2016
557 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:18 pm to
Collision would cover it also if he's that worried about damage why wreck the front end on wills truck. GGe obviously wanted Will out his vehicle.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 7:21 pm
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

Collision would cover it


K
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287809 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:21 pm to
he's going to the farm
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:21 pm to
also if he's that worried about damage why wreck the front end on wills truck. GGe obviously wanted Will out his vehicle.

Different argument
Posted by tigerbytail
slapout
Member since Mar 2016
557 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:23 pm to
Well if he's guilty don't you agree
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
431 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:34 pm to
He shouldn't have followed. That's different from calling the cops after a H&R
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 7:55 pm to
quote:


That's what im saying, there wont be total confirmation until they investigate Hayes phone.



Fuller already admitted it wasn't with one of Hayes' phones and he would check his other one and his friends'.

Then he said a witness told him Hayes called 911. But if it was an impartial witness at the scene of the murder then we know two calls were made: the first reporting the murder and the second reporting the accident.

I would find it extremely unlikely that one of Smith's friends wasn't the one that reported the murder (if my friend gets shot I'm calling the cops regardless of if the murderer is calling the cops).

So that means IF Hayes did call 911 it was AFTER the murder to report the second accident (and not the murder because the second call was just about the accident).

So far it's all looking like Fuller was using "witness" testimony to build his public opinion case and what he said before he is now backtracking on saying it was what "witnesses" told him.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:34 pm to
quote:

his thread is actually a good little synopsis of "Lester Earl, The Will Smith Thread Poster"

Fuller: Hayes called 911 to report the H&R proving he is not the aggressor.
NOPD: No one called 911 to report a H&R
LE: I need to see phone records, the NOPD is likely lying! Rabble rabble!!

NOPD: Murder weapon recovered at scene. Warranted vehicle search in impound discovered 2 additional guns not used in the altercation.
LE: NOPD lied about he number of guns!! Rabble rabble!!!

He takes everything Fuller says as Gospel fact and never questions the integrity of Hayes.

It is getting a little strange at this point.

At first, he seemed open minded and not jumping to conclusions like most did to protect Will Smith.

But now anything Fuller may have said incorrectly is "NOPD is lying", it's just odd now.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:36 pm to
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Do you see it this way because I have continually disproved rumor with facts as they have came out?
You may have done some of that.

But over the last couple of days I've seen you "disprove" things by saying, "Eh, NOPD must be lying" and stating factually that "We know" something to be true then stating we know this because of an eyewitness account.

Lots of really flimsy stuff lately.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287809 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:42 pm to
quote:


But over the last couple of days I've seen you "disprove" things by saying, "Eh, NOPD must be lying" a


What have i said the NOPD has lied about?


I was questioning the article, who gathered and provided the information about the 911 logs. The guy pretended like he knew, but he never did. Was it all the work of the journalist? Or was it directly from the NOPD spokesperson.

The article left of some details, such as confirming whether or not Hayes made a 2nd 911 call; which is much more important than the 1st one. It just seemed to leave out some details.

I didnt straight up say the NOPD lied. They really arent in position to lie, because we all know the info will eventually come out, but lets not pretend they don't have a motive here.

If the journalist did the digging, she also should answer as to whether or not she mentioned just the calls accepted by a dispatcher, or every call that was made during that time, even the ones not accepted by the dispatcher.

ETA: Maybe Fuller said that he checked Hayes' phone personally, but i didnt see it during this discussion. Ive been ignoring some posters here and there so if they provided that information, then this story checks out. Still curious about the 2nd 911 call
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 10:46 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

What have i said the NOPD has lied about?

The guns involved...
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287809 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:47 pm to
well I think they knew for sure. Whether they could legally recognize it with or without a warrant is another deal.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

Whether they could legally recognize it with or without a warrant is another deal.
But you chose to say they lied, now you seem to be backtracking, fair take?

Then asked me what you said they lied about, insinuating you never said anything of the sort.

Just odd, is all.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287809 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:54 pm to
10 hours later this is what you choose to argue? my wording?

talk about odd
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 10:58 pm to
Dodge that as quick as you can!!!!

Well done, nice job deflecting, basically proving my point about your latest posts.

And lol at just calling it a difference of "wording", funny.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 10:59 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34845 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:00 pm to
Bra, you still talking about this?




Come on man
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287809 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:02 pm to
yea im done. he's going to the farm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112600 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 11:05 pm to
Really trying to understand how someone obviously spending time researching this one can forget saying something as important as the cops lying about the guns involved.

How is that not strange?
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
We Coming
Member since Oct 2009
10641 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 2:26 am to
Because he's a lyin' fricking clown who's been getting his arse handed to him left and right. And it's hilarious.





LE: What exactly have a I lied about....in 3, 2, 1....
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 4/15/16 at 7:12 am to
NEVER admits to being wrong. Ever. Despite constantly being proven wrong. And not just about this situation.

Deflect, change the goal posts, ignore, change the subject, etc. But never just saying hey I was wrong about that.
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