re: NFL Officials Responsibilities

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Not only did I play through HS, I've officiated as well.

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so you know more than an ex GM named Jim Miller?

Maybe WWL should have interviewed this morning instead of him

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Not only did I play through HS

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I played all through high school and coached Jr High and JV


Thats neither hear nor there......I know what I read and I know what I heard and I know what I've seen...and I've seen the referee throw flags from all over the field for penalties that are all over the field....he's not just responsible for one area like the rest of the crew is

You're wrong on this..just admit it and move on

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a former NFl GM backed up our argument the ref was in charge and could have made a call and fixed that BS at the end on TLL. this is coming from NFl guys. who know way more than dipshits here like uptopar and others who are fn morons. officilas all the time throw flags from across field. shite vinovich didnt even have to do that. he calls them together as he was looking right at the play and calls it after conference. dude is a huge gaping pussy. miller basically alluded to that

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and I've seen the referee throw flags from all over the field for penalties that are all over the field..

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So have I.

And I've seen, and heard, referees get downgraded because of it.

Seriously. Go check out any referee manuals out there at any level. Get back to me.

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Jim Miller

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From Fox8 Story:

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After spending more than 20 years in the NFL, former Saints general manager Jim Miller said the non-call with 1 minute and 45 seconds left in the game was the most egregious he’s ever seen. “A couple gutless officials looked at each other and decided not to throw the flag,” Miller said. Miller said it’s particularly frustrating because the referees didn’t just miss one call, and from what he saw on the field, they missed two in that one play. “They had two options to call pass interference, which they didn’t, but they could have called a personal foul for the helmet-to-helmet hit, and the fact they did nothing is frustrating,” Miller said. Now, fans are faced with how to move on from such a heart-breaking loss, and what many call a stolen win. “I think its obvious the league has to take up some kind of change or amendment that will prevent something like that from happening,” Miller said.

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Doesn't seem he like he's advocating for the referee to be able to throw the flag. In fact, he's saying the NFL needs to change, which flies in the fact of the argument you are making.

You are implying there is no rule change necessary because the referee has the power. If that's the case, why is Miller saying a change is needed?

Also, Jim Miller hasn't been involved in the NFL in 20 years.

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Not only did I play through HS, I've officiated as well.

What's your credibility?

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If you honestly officiated (which I highly doubt) it is sad that you really think the head referee cannot throw a flag on any play that he witnesses.

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If you honestly officiated (which I highly doubt) it is sad that you really think the head referee cannot throw a flag on any play that he witnesses.


I didn't say that.

I said the head referee is not going to throw a flag on an infraction where others, who clearly have a better view than he does, feel one has not occurred.

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He saw the play and lied about it. As he saw the play he should have at least jogged down and quickly asked why no call. If the back judge called it because he wrongly thought it was tipped a proper resolution would have occurred.

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We are all talking about what he said on the Radio this morning......keep up

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correct. he clearly said the ref coulda called them together and got it right. or as we said anybody else coulda thrown a flag. we have seen it a million times from across field. miller said he is solely responsible for getting it right. he played dumb as miller alluded to when he was looking right at it.

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I heard part of what was said on the radio and I didn't hear anything like what you are saying. do you have a link?

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you even admitted and agreed with exactly what Miller said..

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What he had the absolute right to do, and should have done, is get the officials together and make damn sure that they officials on the spot are sure of their call. Then if one of officials change their mind, a flag could have been thrown

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Man, you are talking in circles

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He saw the play and lied about it.

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correct he lied like a POS to the reporter when the film says otherwise

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If the back judge called it because he wrongly thought it was tipped a proper resolution would have occurred.

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this is what jim miller said on radio this morning. refs job was to get it right and have a meeting on field and somebody drop a flag to fix it. ref did not even have to drop the flag to fix this.

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He said he could have thrown the flag...but he even said he didnt throw it because he didnt see the play.....which is a lie

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Vinovich said he could have thrown the flag?

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And more often than not, when I've seen it... the referee actually made a bad call.

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Right, because more often than not, when the referee standing 15 yards away thinks he sees something that two officials standing 5 yards away didn't see, he's wrong.

Obviously, this is the exception, but that's why the officiating mechanics are the way that they are.