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Posted on 12/24/23 at 5:30 pm
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 5:30 pm
Carr or Baker

Y’all were so confident lol
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48646 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 5:57 pm to
Statistically, they are very similar this year.

Based on the past, it sure looked like Mayfield was a bigger risk.

Many on here, if not most, were not enamored with either.

Fire Dennis Allen.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 6:08 pm to
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it sure looked like Mayfield was a bigger risk.


A bigger risk? Bucs got him on a cheap (I think $4 million?) 1 year prove it deal. We sunk $150 million into Carr. How is that more risky. Your opinion is stupid
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48646 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:26 pm to
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A bigger risk? Bucs got him on a cheap (I think $4 million?) 1 year prove it deal. We sunk $150 million into Carr. How is that more risky. Your opinion is stupid




I meant risk in terms of performing, specifically not quitting on his team as he seemed to do before.

Carr is on a deal that is 100% voidable after year two so unless the front office does something stupid like renegotiate his contract they haven't sunk $150 million into anything. They will have sunk $60 million in though.

Your grammar is atrocious. Best I got
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
22189 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:28 pm to
They are both average at best. They are both journeymen QBs.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 7:54 pm to
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specifically not quitting on his team


Now you’re just making stuff up. This board is so delusional. Mayfield isn’t great but for $4 million? He’s actually won a playoff game. Pretty sure both Taysum and Jameis make as much if not more than him. Y’all can’t even admit that y’all were wrong
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:00 pm to
I think most people will admit that Baker was the better deal but does create an interesting issue for Bucs as well. After the season Baker has had- can you just let him walk and if you don’t do you tie him up on a big deal? To top it off mike evans is gone after this year, they need to be retooled as well and did getting Baker just delay that process?

That being said still a cheaper and much better decision than us signing Carr.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48646 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:05 pm to
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Y’all can’t even admit that y’all were wrong



What is there to admit? I didn't want Carr or Mayfield. If I had to choose now, I would choose Mayfield, hindsight is a wonderful thing like that. Neither is likely to be the future of their franchise.

Not sure why you feel the need to simp for another team's QB.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48646 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:07 pm to
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That being said still a cheaper and much better decision than us signing Carr.




If the OP had just said something like this instead of a juvenile he would have gotten the responses he was looking for.

Carr is not it, that much is clear to me. I think to most.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
13568 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:16 pm to
Let's not forget we have a dysfunctional OC. Kinda skewes the data here.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 9:29 pm to
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A bigger risk? Bucs got him on a cheap (I think $4 million?) 1 year prove it deal. We sunk $150 million into Carr. How is that more risky. Your opinion is stupid


I was one of the few that defended Mayfield. But I’ve been saying since Brees retired to do exactly what Tampa did. Get any decent level starter trying to prove himself like Mayfiekd, Bridgewater, Dalton for no more than 5 million to get our cap back in shape. That should have been the first priority after Brees retired and Loomis has failed miserably.
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72466 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 9:41 pm to
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specifically not quitting on his team as he seemed to do before.


When did he ever quit on his team? Dude had like
5 OCs. If anything Cleveland quit on him. By all accounts Baker is a pretty good teammate who his teammates respect. Carr….
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:49 am to
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When did he ever quit on his team? Dude had like 5 OCs. If anything Cleveland quit on him. By all accounts Baker is a pretty good teammate who his teammates respect. Carr….


I’ve heard completely different stories. He was a grade A douche and most people inside the organization thought he’d have to be humbled to ever reach his potential.

It kinda happened when no team wanted him when they tried to trade him.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 2:59 am to
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They will have sunk $60 million in though.


A 60 million sunk cost is on a whole different plane compared to 4 million. You serious lol?
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 5:16 am to
During the game, Kevin Harlan and his partner were raving about how beloved Baker is in the Bucs locker room. Same for Rams. I’ve heard Mike Lombardi say the same thing a month ago
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48646 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 5:47 am to
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quote:

They will have sunk $60 million in though.



A 60 million sunk cost is on a whole different plane compared to 4 million. You serious lol?




In that I was pointing out that 60 million is not 150 million, yes I was serious. Nowhere did I suggest it wasn't significantly more than 4 million nor that the Saints didn't get the worse of the two deals between Mayfield and Carr. They obviously did.

And merry Christmas, you old wino
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