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Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:24 am to
Posted by death valley driver
CHOPPA CITY
Member since Jul 2004
11676 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:24 am to
quote:

The facts are he is small, runs too much, he has only 57 percent accuracy average,



And Josh allen threw 56% in the MAC


DROP %

Lamar Jackson - 8.5%
Baker Mayfield - 8.0%
Josh Rosen - 7.5%
Mason Rudolph - 6.6%
Josh Allen - 4.8%
Sam Darnold - 4.3%
Posted by Browncoatrebel
Member since Nov 2017
1107 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:26 am to
I thought Deshaun Watson would be a bust...so I've been wrong before...who the frick knows, he could be great....or he could suck. But he doesn't fit our offensive scheme and he looked like shite taking snaps off center with bad dropbacks and footing
Posted by PapaWoodreaux
Twin Cities, MN
Member since Dec 2017
801 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:42 am to
That Josh Allen is very accurate lol .
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11498 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:46 am to
I was on the Mahomes bandwagon. I thought for sure that Lattimore was going to be a top 6 pick. I had no idea that KC would trade up. I wanted him to be our QBOTF. How everything played out is better for us in the long run.

Having said that, I do not want a QB that has NEVER completed more than 60% of his passes in college. Mahomes, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton, and even the illustrious Jordan Jefferson have completed at least 60% once in their career. Mayfield is at 70% his last 2 seasons.

LJ compares more with Michael Vick who also failed to meet the 60% mark in college. Was he dangerous QB in both college and the NFL, of course. Was he ever a real threat to win a Super Bowl? No.

The Saints need to take advantage of the window that is open to win a Super Bowl now. Go get one of the physically gifted TEs or add depth to the OL or add to the DL. More depth and talent at those positions will help more than LJ will.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10399 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:48 am to
I'm not so sold on the drops thing. I watched Jackson's pro day and Mike Mayock was prattling on about the drops there, but to me they just looked like off target throws that were barely touching the receivers hands
Posted by mark65mc
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
11498 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:49 am to
quote:

DROP %

Baker Mayfield - 8.0%


Holy shite!! 70% + completion percentage plus 8.0% drop rate. That is one accurate SOB.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10399 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 11:57 am to
To be fair, though, I don't know if I've ever seen an offense that creates as many windows as Oklahoma's. There is absolutely a ton of easy open throws for him that have padded that %.

All of that said, he is also insanely accurate. If you sat down and counted, he probably also has the most tight-throw windows in this class
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70808 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:43 pm to
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So you missed where Payton said the next QB doesn't have to be a Drew clone and he'd tailor the offense around whoever that was?


No thanks to an offense tailored around an inaccurate running qb. No thanks to any running qb actually.
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Cam can't throw either but he is a huge, physical specimen that can take the pounding. Lamar doesn't have that physicality.

Exactly. For all the air mails he has, he can also scramble to convert a 3rd and 15 on busted coverages. He'll hold up in that regard.

Question will be is he more Vick who was able to stay in the league for a long time, despite a few injuries, or will be RG3 who flashed and then can't walk by the end of his rookie year.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:31 pm to
Russell Wilson first three years in college

57.3% comp
136.4 rating
76/26 TD/INT
7.3 y/a

Lam Jackson three years in college
57% comp
142.9 rating
69/27 TD/INT
8.3 y/a

Why is Lamar Jackson treated as a finished product as a passer? His comp% has increased every year
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28163 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Smokescreen


Yep
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 6:19 pm to
I'm not advocating for Lamar but he had the most drops in college by WRs

They were really bad the last couple years
Posted by Breadstick Gun
Freeport, FL
Member since Apr 2009
10380 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:42 am to
do not want
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 5:51 am to
quote:

he has only 57 percent accuracy average

in college, 60.1 %... wanna guess who's that was?

quote:

he is small

compared to? this is subjective...

quote:

runs too much

compared to? this, again, is subjective...

quote:

his decision to let his mom be his agent shows he is not a great decision maker

according to? this, yet again, is subjective....


you have no facts....
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
110663 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:15 am to
Please No
Posted by Northshore Saint
Loranger, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1864 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 7:49 am to
There are two teams before us I think could pick Jackson. That's Arizona or Washington. Neither of their quarterbacks are long term solutions.
Posted by 3HourTour
A whiskey barrel
Member since Mar 2006
21861 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:25 am to
quote:

in college, 60.1 %... wanna guess who's that was?


Andrew Christopher Brees?
Posted by C_Bologna
Denham Springs
Member since Mar 2018
4 posts
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:32 am to
I trust the Saints scouting department. They will take the BPA at #27. And if that's Lamar, then so be it.
Posted by Kdilla390
Member since Apr 2018
16 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 10:53 pm to
Bump
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
7052 posts
Posted on 11/3/19 at 11:10 pm to
Absolutely still do not want.
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