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re: Katrina

Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157174 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

i said you SHOULD be over it.


did you object to john wooden writing a letter to his late wife everyday?

I hope you gave him an earful!!!
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17798 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:44 pm to
The story is not what katrina did to N.O., but what our government did to N.O. By not making sure the levees where good or strong enough to sustain a cat 2 or higher hurricane. I can see the the tie in with the Saints obviously by refugees using the superdome as a shelter. But to me, and this is my opinion, which is like an arse hole. The Mississippi gulf coast was the area that got ravaged. No levee could protect it in the face of the storm and it wasn't the governments fault they lost everything. So in retrospect I believe this is more political, so should be on the poli. instead of the saints board. And by the way who the frickin dat.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110872 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

it was the rebuilding (and reaction)


The more widespread the destruction, the more bad apples there will be.

There were more people whose shite got destroyed in Katrina, who worked their asses off to put it back together, than there were for Rita (purely had to do with the magnitude and amount of people affected). It was much easier for some, however, to just see the many freeloading jackasses in New Orleans, though, and assume that was the defining characteristic.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28099 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

i'm not comparing the magnitude at all

it was the rebuilding (and reaction)

i tried to clarify in my long post about it

Sorry your right SFP...I looked back and thats what you seem to be saying...please try and remember people on this board lost family in Katrina...
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14846 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:45 pm to
quote:



do you actually drink champagne?


I believe the rich and affluent call it Champanya
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30429 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:53 pm to
Three 6 Italia should not be allowed to have a Saints avatar or Saints as his favorite team. He was a huge negasaints all year last year and if you read the super bowl thread, you would see him up to his shite in there as well.

He is the biggest troll on here...

Back to the topic. The Media is going to talk about Katrina until the city is completely rebuilt. There is still a lot of damage in the area and New Orleans isn't back yet but with the way the school system is improving and Mitch seems to be cleaning up the corruption that Mr Chocolate City left and then you look at what the Saints are doing and Brad Pitt's charity and the United Way then things are certainly looking up for the city.

The good thing is when the media finally stops mentioning Katrina in relation to the Saints it will be because New Orleans is finally "BACK" and as Drew would say, its "Coming Back Stronger"
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28099 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

The Media is going to talk about Katrina until the city is completely rebuilt.
I hope your right seems the media has the attention span of a parking meter
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17798 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 2:58 pm to
Champanya and more cow bells.
Posted by WreckinRams05
Houston, Texas
Member since Dec 2005
6394 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

I do like how, so far, the people in this thread talking the most shite are from Lake Charles, Cameron parish and Texas


just because somebody has that as their current location doesn't mean that is where they are from fyi.
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19519 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:05 pm to
Keeping Katrina/Saints connection going = media/NFL selling more Brees jerseys nationally

Simple as that

Nationally, no body really deep-down gives a shite about the Saints, they do give a shite about a story line that pulls on heart strings though
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

Take this shite to another board. The Saints have been instrumental in the comeback of the city. If you can't see that it's a good story to go from a city that most people thought shouldn't even be rebuilt to the city of the World Champs then you're as blind as they come. It was NBC's first time to do their story on the Saints since the Super Bowl. Get over it homey.
I don't think that's his point. I'm with the OP. It's a constant monotonous drumbeat by the mainstream that I'm pretty sick of myself. It was five years ago.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

did you object to john wooden writing a letter to his late wife everyday?

you know i thought about that when initially writing it, which made me lesson my original, absolute statement
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Nationally, no body really deep-down gives a shite about the Saints, they do give a shite about a story line that pulls on heart strings though

i do not disagree with this either
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110872 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Keeping Katrina/Saints connection going = media/NFL selling more Brees jerseys nationally

Simple as that

Nationally, no body really deep-down gives a shite about the Saints, they do give a shite about a story line that pulls on heart strings though


This is silly. Plenty of teams in professional sports have been able to market themselves and certain players nationally, without anything like Katrina to relate themselves to. That's not saying it wasn't initially a good story line to pique many folks' interst. I just don't think that means we have to constantly harken back to it forever into enternity.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Plenty of teams in professional sports have been able to market themselves and certain players nationally, without anything like Katrina to relate themselves to.

quote:

I just don't think that means we have to constantly harken back to it forever into enternity.

i don't either, but i don't know if the saints will ever get national appeal without a katrina link (not that it matters in the end)
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19519 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Plenty of teams in professional sports have been able to market themselves and certain players nationally
Yea, teams in places like Chicago, NY, Miami,LA etc.

We're nothing like those markets, and not to sound cynical cause Katrina was terrible and everything, but we have a hell of a marketing angle with all of this
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110872 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

i don't either, but i don't know if the saints will ever get national appeal without a katrina link (not that it matters in the end)


The history of the NFL seems to show that if any team sustains any type of long-term success, they will acquire a certain national following.

Look at Green Bay, Dallas, Pittsburgh, etc.

Same with players: Farve, Peyton Manning, Brady.

I'm not predicting the Saints will reach that sort of sustained success (I'm not saying they won't either), but if they do, they will attract people's attention nationally without the need of some sort of gimmick hook.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110872 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Yea, teams in places like Chicago, NY, Miami,LA etc.


No, for the NFL, market size is largely irrelevant to whether a team gets a national following. See, the teams I cited.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476174 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

The history of the NFL seems to show that if any team sustains any type of long-term success, they will acquire a certain national following.

i'm not doubting this

but with brees already old, it's an uphill battle. for that reason i didn't even really think about that possibility

quote:

Green Bay

starr/favre

quote:

Dallas

staubach/90s triplets

quote:

Pittsburgh

bradshaw/big ben (although i'll admit this has the least star power of the group listed)

most of these stars are home grown (or essentially home grown in favre's case)
Posted by danman6336
Member since Jan 2005
19519 posts
Posted on 9/10/10 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Green Bay, Dallas, Pittsburgh
I'm not going to look up numbers on Pitt, but I assume it's larger than N.O.

Dallas=huge market

Green Bay is an exception to the rule, but I mean they were the original dominant team in the "modern" Super Bowl era of the NFL. The trophy is named after their coach. They just had the one of the best QBs in the history of the game for over a decade. We have none of those factors.

Think about it. I was reading about blackouts this season and guess which teams they were for, all the small market ones (Tampa Bay, Jacksonville, etc.)
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