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re: Jameis reportedly refused to start Rams game

Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:35 am to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:35 am to
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Dalton sucked arse and lost us multiple games because he crumbles under pressure. He deserved to be benched despite any promises
Posted by BZ504
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:42 am to
I’d rather Simeon than either Dalton or Winston. They both suck.
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:06 am to
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Funny how Jameis has a better record as a qb with less weapons for us than Andy huh?


What? Jameis was the only qb to start games this year with a completely healthy receiver corps and offensive line and was 1-2 with the one win being only because of the falcons total ineptness. So this is a lie.

Dalton didn’t get that benefit. Didn’t get to throw one pass to MT. By the end of the year, Dalton was playing with 3/5 of the starting line out. Winston looked like shite when all the starters were in. Probably why he refused to play with all the backups in B/c he knew how’d that go.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:07 am to
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Did 2021 never happen? You guys paint a pretty dumb narrative for jameis constantly. I think it's pretty obvious this story leaked out to make him look bad and probably has a lot more to do with the Saints trying to save face with how badly they managed him this year


Like someone said, Bridgewater was undesfeated, Taysom also had a better record starting under Payton. Did Winston finish the year and get us to the playoffs?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:40 am to
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Jameis was the only qb to start games this year with a completely healthy receiver corps and offensive line and was 1-2 with the one win being only because of the falcons total ineptness. So this is a lie.


And his 2 losses were when he shouldnt have even been playing, which the entire team admitted. So your narrative is false.

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Winston looked like shite when all the starters were in.


He threw for more yards in one quarter than dalton threw for in most games lol
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:47 am to
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Did Winston finish the year and get us to the playoffs?


Are you seriously trying to blame his injury on him lol?
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:50 am to
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And his 2 losses were when he shouldnt have even been playing, which the entire team admitted. So your narrative is false.


My narrative is false? Did Winston not have a completely healthy oline and all three starting receivers those three games? Did Dalton ever have that in one game this year? No.

Not hard to comprehend.
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 9:52 am to
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And his 2 losses were when he shouldnt have even been playing, which the entire team admitted


So he was hurt the three prior quarters he looked like dog poo in the Atlanta game and started to look good when they went to a prevent drop zone and quit blitzing him? I get confused?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:02 am to
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So he was hurt the three prior quarters he looked like dog poo in the Atlanta game and started to look good when they went to a prevent drop zone and quit blitzing him? I get confused?


So it's Jameis fault he took advantage of bad coverage schemes like a good qb should lol? Pete Carmichael, whom we all hate, had nothing to do with the bad playcalling in the first 3 quarters either? You do get confused.

Were his two tds to Mike zone? Or just straight man that jameis beat?
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 10:02 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:20 am to
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Were his two tds to Mike zone? Or just straight man that jameis beat?


So they went to man when they got close to the end zone, how about the other 80% of the time?

And you just proved my point when you said my narrative was false, two great catches to MT who Dalton never had on the field with him.

This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 10:27 am to
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two great catches to MT who Dalton never had on the field with him.


Yeah Andy never had great catches from our wrs this year lol. Juwan alone bailed him out on multiple throws that were behind him this season.

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So they went to man when they got close to the end zone, how about the other 80% of the time?


Now we have to change the narrative huh? This is a sad exercise by you.
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:03 am to
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Yeah Andy never had great catches from our wrs this year lol. Juwan alone bailed him out on multiple throws that were behind him this season.


Yea I remember Juwan letting a td go through his hands and hitting him straight in the facemask, think that happened twice this year. Then Hill dropping a td the very next play. And Olave dropping multiple easy catches throughout the year. And Calloway letting a ball hit him straight in the hands that goes for an int in Arizona. That’s just going off the top of my head. They really helped him out.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 11:09 am
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:07 am to
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Now we have to change the narrative huh? This is a sad exercise by you.


Let me get this straight, you are arguing and conceded yourself that they quit blitzing and played prevent drop zone the entire 4th quarter allowing Winston to go down the field in the hurry up but since they changed it up when we got inside the 10-15 yard line and ran man a couple plays I’m changing the narrative lol? Yea ok.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:18 am to
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They really helped him out.


Yeah, and I remember Kamara giving up a fumble td and Lutz bricking two fgs in the first carolina game that was "all jameis fault" according to posters like you.

They really helped him out too
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:19 am to
Let me get this straight, you are arguing and conceded yourself that they quit blitzing and played prevent drop zone the entire 4th quarter allowing Winston to go down the field in the hurry up

He took advantage of a bad coverage scheme. Like good qbs do.

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since they changed it up when we got inside the 10-15 yard line and ran man a couple plays I’m changing the narrative lol? Yea ok.


You didn't mention it in your original argument at all. So yes you did change the narrative.
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 11:55 am to
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Yeah, and I remember Kamara giving up a fumble td and Lutz bricking two fgs in the first carolina game that was "all jameis fault" according to posters like you. They really helped him out too


That has absolutely nothing to do with receivers dropping balls. Jarvis and MT made multiple hell fire catches that ATL game to bail Winston out. Jarvis wasn’t healthy most of the year except those first couple games, same with MT but he’s just a pussy and didnt come back like Jarvis. Like I said Dalton never got the benefit of playing with MT or really a 100% healthy Jarvis or oline.

If he gets in the end zone, we don’t have to worry about miss fgs. And Lutz missed many this year with Dalton starting.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:05 pm to
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You didn't mention it in your original argument at all. So yes you did change the narrative


They played man maybe 5-10% of time, guess you got me. All those big plays and drives down the field and tds scored happened during those 5-10% of the time they were in man. You win.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:19 pm to
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Funny how Jameis has a better record as a qb with less weapons for us than Andy huh?




Dalton spent nearly the entire season with a rookie Chris Olave, Juwan Johnson and Rashid Shaheed as his primary weapons.

You’re a disingenuous frick.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 12:21 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Dalton spent nearly the entire season with a rookie Chris Olave, Juwan Johnson and Rashid Shaheed as his primary weapons.

You’re a disingenuous frick.


Funny how the majority of Jameis starts were with Calloway as his 1/2 wrs. Olave is better than both of them by a country mile.

You're just a sad little bitch that can't accept that he was wrong.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 12:40 pm to
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Funny how the majority of Jameis starts were with Calloway as his 1/2 wrs.


Payton as his coach and play caller too.

We’ll just leave that part out though.

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You're just a sad little bitch that can't accept that he was wrong.


Wrong about what? Jameis wouldn’t even play and never will play for the saints again, yet you’re still here defending him.

It’s a very weird thing to do as a “saints fan”.
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