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re: Jalen Milroe
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:56 am to St Augustine
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:56 am to St Augustine
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My opinion is players with talent can get better especially in a great system.
Milroe played under 3 different offensive systems at Alabama. First under Bill O'Brien. Then Tommy Rees & finally last year Kalen DeBoer/Nick Sheridan. Milroe showed no progress as a passer in any of the offensive systems. He's just really slow at reading coverages pre & post snap. He can't throw with anticipation. If it's not a deep ball or wide arse open, he isn't pulling the trigger or he does, he's throwing it into traffic for an interception. No one can fix that aspect of his game. You either have it or you don't & Milroe doesn't have it.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 11:07 am
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:56 am to Cracking
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Absolutely correct, but that offense was stacked and had more consistency with players and coaching than Bama's this year.
Can you guess how many four and five stars Alabama had on offense?
Penix threw for nearly 5k and 40 TDs in the same system at Washington
Everyone thinks they can change these uber athletic QB. For every Jalen hurts there are 10 Terrelle Pryors and Brad Smiths
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:58 am to Rand AlThor
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Will you still have this attitude next year if we are picking at 15 and there's only 1-2 good QBs expected to go 1 and 2?
This won't be the case next draft. It's gonna be a QB heavy draft even if Arch doesn't come out which he probably won't.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 10:59 am to BigBrod81
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This won't be the case next draft. It's gonna be a QB heavy draft even if Arch doesn't come out which he probably won't.
You are making massive assumptions. People made some of those same ones with this draft last year with guys like Shadeur, Ewers, etc and it did not work out
How about you just assume my hypothetical is true and answer the question?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:00 am to GynoSandberg
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Terrelle Pryors
Was probably the most gifted athlete of them in terms of athletic QBs & even he didn't work out.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:02 am to Rand AlThor
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People made some of those same ones with this draft last year with guys like Shadeur, Ewers, etc and it did not work out
No one ever said this was going to be a QB heavy draft even going back to a year ago this time. It was always going to be a light class. Stop making things up.
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How about you just assume my hypothetical is true and answer the question?
I'm not even going to waste my time on a hypothetical because it's not even close to being true.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 11:07 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:06 am to BigBrod81
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No one can fix that aspect of his game
Maybe not. I guess we will see. I tend to disagree though especially in a guy that young that a smart OC/HC can develop something innovative around.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 11:08 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:13 am to St Augustine
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I tend to disagree though especially in a guy that young.
He simply processes everything too slowly. He can also be fooled easily scheme wise. Reading analysis like that from scouts about QBs takes me back to an interview Trent Dilfer gave & explained why he never excelled in the NFL. He said mentally he could learn the concepts inside & out. He knew all his reads, checks & line calls. He mastered it all in the film room. He could go out on the practice field during practice & execute it all perfectly yet when it was game time, he simply failed to do what he learned & practiced.
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smart OC/HC
He had those at Bama yet still struggled.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 11:15 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:27 am to BigBrod81
I hear all that. I just think we’re entering a much more innovative era in the nfl and TD and Bill O’Brien are dinosaurs in it.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:32 am to St Augustine
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I just think we’re entering a much more innovative era in the nfl and TD and Bill O’Brien are dinosaurs in it.
Yet that isn't the case with Tommy Rees or Kalen DeBoer. I respect you as a poster. You are one of the sharpest on this board. Milroe simply has too many red flags for a QB. The inaccuracies, poor decision making & bad play in big games should get anyone's attention but the latest news about Alabama offensive skill players wanting to transfer out had Milroe returned should scare off everyone. Even his teammates at Bama knew this dude was arse as a passer.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:34 pm to BigBrod81
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I'm not even going to waste my time on a hypothetical because it's not even close to being true.
Lol. Yeah, OK buddy. You're wrong, as usual. Go hangout with ipodking in the worst posters club.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:53 pm to Rand AlThor
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Will you still have this attitude next year if we are picking at 15 and there's only 1-2 good QBs expected to go 1 and 2? You gonna say "we shouldn't do it, we have needs on the roster" when presented with the idea of giving up a bounty of picks to move up for your boy Nuss?
How long do we "build up the roster" before we get a QB? There is never going to be a QB who is rated appropriately sitting on the board where we pick. It is a position you have to take a risk and reach for.
The Saints ain't picking at 15 next year.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:54 pm to Rand AlThor
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You're wrong, as usual.
You have years of being wrong especially when it comes to this draft stuff. Show me where this 2025 draft was ever considered a QB heavy class.
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Go hangout with ipodking in the worst posters club.
All you ever do is talk. You provide no substance or links to back anything you ever say. You can take your shite opinion where you are wrong & shove them up your arse. Do some research on your own & stop grasping at straws.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:55 pm to BigBrod81
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Milroe played under 3 different offensive systems at Alabama. First under Bill O'Brien. Then Tommy Rees & finally last year Kalen DeBoer/Nick Sheridan. Milroe showed no progress as a passer in any of the offensive systems. He's just really slow at reading coverages pre & post snap. He can't throw with anticipation. If it's not a deep ball or wide arse open, he isn't pulling the trigger or he does, he's throwing it into traffic for an interception. No one can fix that aspect of his game. You either have it or you don't & Milroe doesn't have it.
You'll get downvoted for this but you're absolutely correct. Milroe is an explosive athlete but a bad QB.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:56 pm to JiminyCricket
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You'll get downvoted for this
IDGAF about those but I get what you are saying.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:57 pm to St Augustine
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Maybe not. I guess we will see. I tend to disagree though especially in a guy that young that a smart OC/HC can develop something innovative around.
It doesn't matter how smart or innovative a coach is if the guy he's coaching cannot throw the ball to with anything symbolizing touch. I honestly have no idea how y'all could watch Jalen Milroe this past year and think he's go what it takes to succeed in the league.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:58 pm to BigBrod81
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IDGAF about those but I get what you are saying.
I honestly have no idea what people in this thread see in Milroe as an NFL prospect at QB.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:59 pm to BigBrod81
Everyone knows he needs to develop as a passer. But he’s not that terrible. He can make some really great throws. And if you disagree with that you’re just an ignorant person who hasn’t watched his film.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:00 pm to BigBrod81
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All you ever do is talk. You provide no substance or links to back anything you ever say. You can take your shite opinion where you are wrong & shove them up your arse. Do some research on your own & stop grasping at straws.
This is exactly what you do boss. You present all these radical opinions as fact. The draft is my favorite thing about the NFL, I consume draft content year round. I promise I know more about this than you do. You are doing what every other loser LSU fan does on this board and basing your entire position on this topic on the outside chance that the Saints draft Nussmeier. Not gonna happen.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:02 pm to Rand AlThor
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You are doing what every other loser LSU fan does on this board and basing your entire position on this topic on the outside chance that the Saints draft Nussmeier. Not gonna happen.
I don't care if the Saints draft Garrett. I don't want them to draft Milroe with any early draft picks.
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