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Ingram vs Ivory
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:23 pm
Why are we still wasting carries on Ingram? He has shown time and time again that he isn't the answer, whereas Ivory has shown that he can carry the load. WTH are they waiting for to bring Ivory in and deactivate Ingram?!?!?!
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Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:24 pm to tjtiger9
Shanle and Ingram are secret lovers. Shanle has the nudes on everyone.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:27 pm to tjtiger9
it's the line!!!!!
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:27 pm to tjtiger9
Why would you bench your number 1 RB for your number 4?
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:28 pm to Patrick O Rly
They need to just pay them what they want, get the pics, and let them go like they did with Benson/sheep pics that Venturi had for so long.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:29 pm to tjtiger9
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Why are we still wasting carries on Ingram?
He is a very consistent and reliable 2-3 yrd back. Deal with it. We dont have anyone better in short yardage situations. And did you see that play action bootleg. The whole frickin D bit on that. That play will come in handy this season. Plus he blocks pretty well.
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He has shown time and time again that he isn't the answer
He has? What's the question?
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whereas Ivory has shown that he can carry the load.
Orly? Link? when? fumbles?
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WTH are they waiting for to bring Ivory in and deactivate Ingram
It wouldnt be a good move to trade you starting RB for a guy on the bench with less experience and unsure hands?
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:45 pm to Breesus
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He is a very consistent and reliable 2-3 yrd back.
This is very true. He averages 6-9 feet a carry......Consistently!
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:50 pm to OldSouth
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This is very true. He averages 6-9 feet a carry......Consistently!
I know you're being sarcastic. But he is a short yardage back, and he blocks good enough. The guy is a great Rb for a 3rd string short yardage back on a pass heavy team without much help from an oline.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:52 pm to Breesus
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But he is a short yardage back, and he blocks good enough. The guy is a great Rb for a 3rd string short yardage back on a pass heavy team without much help from an oline.
so that's why he was drafted so high? with a first round pick and all?
I hope you are being sarcastic
Posted on 10/22/12 at 12:58 pm to Breesus
Yesterday's play by play:
2nd and 5 at NO 25 M.Ingram up the middle to NO 28 for 3 yards (G.McCoy; L.David).
2nd and 2 at TB 20 M.Ingram left guard to TB 19 for 1 yard (E.Biggers).
1st and 10 at NO 20 M.Ingram right guard to NO 20 for no gain (L.David, G.Johnson).
1st and 10 at TB 10 M.Ingram up the middle to TB 9 for 1 yard (M.Foster).
1st and 10 at NO 44 M.Ingram up the middle to TB 46 for 10 yards (M.Barron; R.Barber). Penalty on TB-G.Gibson, Defensive Offside, declined.
2nd and 11 at NO 30 M.Ingram right guard to NO 33 for 3 yards (R.Miller).
3rd and 1 at NO 29 M.Ingram up the middle to NO 32 for 3 yards (E.Wright).
2nd and 5 at NO 25 M.Ingram up the middle to NO 28 for 3 yards (G.McCoy; L.David).
2nd and 2 at TB 20 M.Ingram left guard to TB 19 for 1 yard (E.Biggers).
1st and 10 at NO 20 M.Ingram right guard to NO 20 for no gain (L.David, G.Johnson).
1st and 10 at TB 10 M.Ingram up the middle to TB 9 for 1 yard (M.Foster).
1st and 10 at NO 44 M.Ingram up the middle to TB 46 for 10 yards (M.Barron; R.Barber). Penalty on TB-G.Gibson, Defensive Offside, declined.
2nd and 11 at NO 30 M.Ingram right guard to NO 33 for 3 yards (R.Miller).
3rd and 1 at NO 29 M.Ingram up the middle to NO 32 for 3 yards (E.Wright).
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:02 pm to Breesus
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Orly? Link? when? fumbles?
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It wouldnt be a good move to trade you starting RB for a guy on the bench with less experience and unsure hands?
Ivory has more experience with 216 career rushing att compared to 166 att for Ingram. I understand the blocking part of it, that Ingram may be more suitable - but I'm sure Ivory can catch on.
His fumbling problem, needs to be put to the test not just talked about- like with Matthews,Ridley,etc.
If Ivory looks so bad in practice that he can only be on the active roster for 1 out of the 6 games and not play over 2.9ypc Ingram, then its time to cut ties. If not, activate the man and let him get 5 carries a game at least.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:08 pm to stapuffmarshy
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so that's why he was drafted so high?
The kid cant help how high he was drafted, stop shitting on him for it.
He isnt a terrible back and he does what he is asked.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:10 pm to Sorrento Muddbugs
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If Ivory looks so bad in practice that he can only be on the active roster for 1 out of the 6 games and not play over 2.9ypc Ingram, then its time to cut ties. If not, activate the man and let him get 5 carries a game at least.
He might have some potential and he is definitely nice to have when a starting RB goes down. Why the frick would we cut ties with him?
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I understand the blocking part of it, that Ingram may be more suitable - but I'm sure Ivory can catch on.
He hasnt shown that he can.
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His fumbling problem, needs to be put to the test
It is every preseason. And he fumbles every preseason.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:15 pm to Breesus
Mark Ingram NOR 6games 44att 127yrds 2.9ypc
Ryan Williams ARI 5games 58att 164yrds 2.8ypc
Jacquizz Rodgers ATL 6games 31att 77yrds 2.5ypc
This is the bottom of the NFC barrel.
Ryan Williams ARI 5games 58att 164yrds 2.8ypc
Jacquizz Rodgers ATL 6games 31att 77yrds 2.5ypc
This is the bottom of the NFC barrel.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:19 pm to Sorrento Muddbugs
He would have been a great pickup in the fifth round. Seeing that we all agree he is at best a short yardage back who can block. And I emphasize short yardage back.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:20 pm to stapuffmarshy
Also keep in mind that 1st round picks aren't making what they once were 5-8 years ago. They aren't coming in and taking a huge chunk of cap space.
To say that he's "wasting a spot" on your team is absurd. Compared to most other RBs taken in the NFC South (J. Rodgers, etc), M.I. is actually doing pretty decent. Not a fantasy stud but c'mon...
To say that he's "wasting a spot" on your team is absurd. Compared to most other RBs taken in the NFC South (J. Rodgers, etc), M.I. is actually doing pretty decent. Not a fantasy stud but c'mon...
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:20 pm to Hoodoo Man
Ingram is at best our 3rd best running back..
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:22 pm to Breesus
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The kid cant help how high he was drafted, stop shitting on him for it.
Awe, poor kid making 2 million a year for falling forward 10 times a game.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:22 pm to tjtiger9
So, when Ivory is activated and he runs for 2.3 YPC because the line isn't run blocking well, and he can only get about 5 carries a game because we don't run the ball at all, and he can't get into a rhythm because the coaches don't stick with one RB for more than one play at a time, then what?
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 1:23 pm to Breesus
quote:is he asked to run into the arse of an O-lineman and then fall straight down on one-fourth of his carries? if so, he's doing a great job.
He isnt a terrible back and he does what he is asked.
He lacks vision and balance. It's pretty evident.
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